Thread: Patton $ Online

A discussion about what your dollars get you.

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In a brazen attempt to get business from people who are drafting this weekend and find themselves totally unprepared, we've posted cheat sheets at

http://blog.askrotoman.com/category/ask-rotoman/

If you are a subscriber, click on the Subscriber area; we've posted a password there that takes you to the cheat sheets. Peter worked hard on these and they're pretty great.

Alex Patton Alex
Mar 22

The March 21 Update is posted. Lots and lots of changes in my prices cutting released players and getting down to the 3120 limit. Actually we're all there, but Alex has a few too many NL and FA pitchers. 

You can track significant changes here, but in the massive reckoning I did lots of plus and minus ones to get down to it. Those aren't tracked.

There will be much more tracking this week as more cuts are made and jobs are won. Subscribe for the latest prices and projections.

We're also releasing a snapshot in time set of lists tomorrow for those who didn't want to subscribe to the whole package, but could use a price list to get ready for their auctions this week. 

More tomorrow about that.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 22

The March 14 Update is posted. Not too many changes. I've fine tuned some prices, given Adam Jones a team, and Marin Maldonado too. Let me know if you have any questions or problems, and you can track significant changes here.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 14

Alex, I've played in this league for several years; we use OPS and QS as the sixth categories. I'm no H2H expert, but in my experience, H2H rewards consistency and punishes waste and week-to-week variations. So saves, and to a lesser extent stolen bases, are pretty worthless. Closers only really help in the one category, and one week they might get three saves and the next zero. Same thing with the Billy Hamiltons of the world. If the league matchups were two weeks long and you could adjust halfway through, maybe closers and speed guys might have more value. But under our rules? I basically zero out closers, except for the few who get a lot of strikeouts, and significantly discount the one-dimensional guys (speedsters and slow, low-OBP sluggers).

T.J. Rohr TJRohr
Mar 14

Peter posted this link last week. I'm just putting it back on top.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W7owi0_sh-mWsrdMTk7Kk1UNHUciBO1pHR02GLwIRoM/edit#gid=w.

Next update is tomorrow.

Alex Patton Alex
Mar 13

Our NL league is 6x6 with these changes:

OBP instead of AVG

QS+W instead of Wins

Saves + .5(Holds) instead of Saves

Add SLG - still favors sluggers usually but is a separate skill from OBP

Add IP - eliminates the need for a minimum IP rule and is a skill in itself; it's also nuanced because pitchers are used differently these days as far times through the lineup so roster construction for your 9 pitchers (we use 10) can really vary - but to compete in this category, you should roster enough SP and swing/long guys


* we also switched to 4 OF and 2 UT (one UT can be a pitcher)

Eric Valdi farley
Mar 13

We are considering going to a NL Only 6x6 Keeper League. Currently play 5x5. I need one very good pitching and hitting category...The league does not like HOLDS.. OBP might be added..Give me some good ones for both...I mentioned OPS but league thinks it only favors power hitters...

Mark Ashy MarkA
Mar 13

I've never played in H2H, so I'm not the one to answer. But if Conteras/Pillar/Seager is just the beginning of the $1 pool, $70 is not crazy.

Alex Patton Alex
Mar 13

To locate the Stage Four thread ... there are tabs above ... one of them is "Threads" ... click on that and you'll see a link to the Stage Four thread.

Howard Lynch LynchMob
Mar 13

I can't seem to locate a/the Stage Four thread, either by searching or by going through all the recent comments. So I thought I'd post this here (it was either here or Mike Trout):

I'm in a 12-team, 6x6, H2H, mixed Yahoo!. I've done very well in it almost every year, thanks primarily to the software and wisdom of this site. I know values aren't linear; you cheat the good players and dramatically increase the salaries for the Trouts and Scherzers of the Roto world. Is there an accepted wisdom yet on how much to increase, and how far down the list you go before prices normalize? For example, I currently have Trout at $70, Yelich at $49, Bregman (#10) at $43, Rendon (#31) at $27/par, Tommy Pham (#50) at $14, and Contreras/Pillar/Seager as the beginning of the $1 hitters. Does this seem OK?

T.J. Rohr TJRohr
Mar 13