Trea Turner Los Angeles Dodgers

Age: 28 (June 30, 1993) | 6' 2" | 185lbs. | Bats: Right 2B-49 SS-98 PH-3 PR-1
Tm Lg YEAR G AB R H BB SO 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BA OBP SLG BB% SO% BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
WAS NL 2018 162 664 103 180 69 132 27 6 19 73 43 9 .271 .344 .416 9 18 .314 49/18/33 40 36
WAS A+ 2019 2 8 1 1 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 .125 .222 .125 11 44 .250 n/a
WAS NL 2019 122 521 96 155 43 113 37 5 19 57 35 5 .298 .353 .497 8 20 .348 47/20/33 36 33
WAS NL 2020 59 233 46 78 22 36 15 4 12 41 12 4 .335 .394 .588 8 14 .353 45/21/35 55 49
WAS NL 2021 96 388 66 125 26 77 17 3 18 49 21 3 .322 .369 .521 6 18 .363 45/23/32 33 29
LAD NL 2021 52 207 41 70 15 33 17 0 10 28 11 2 .338 .385 .565 7 15 .361 46/18/36 19 17
LAD NL 2022 33 128 16 35 13 26 9 1 1 23 6 1 .273 .340 .383 9 18 .330 48/22/30 8 7
Career 8yrs 722 2900 501 874 236 568 161 33 104 357 209 40 .301 .357 .487 7 18 .344 n/a
Welcome! You are invited to wander around and read all of the comments that have been posted here at Patton & Co., but as soon as you register you can see the bid limits that Alex, Peter and Mike propose for each player, and you can post your own comments. Registering is free, so please join us!

My top bid after doing my first round of projections. I'm a bit cautious on players (I figure the top outliers are outperforming their estimates), but have Turner on the list at earning 38 (aided no doubt by the dearth of SBs in general).

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Mar 18

Free agents are only listed once, usually in the league they played in last.

Alex Patton Alex
Feb 19

Thanks, clear.  I misread the projections as the bids.  Now I gotta open that Excel file.  

Just curious... in the NL and AL split lists, how did you handle unsigned guys like Correa?  Put them as a FA in both lists?

Bob Elam Bob-in-TX
Feb 18

Subscribers see the projections on the player pages, Bob. Everyone sees the bids when we post them on the player pages.

Alex Patton Alex
Feb 18

Thanks, I see it.  I commented only based on the implication in the thread below that we could now see bids if we are subscribers (long comment below, 2nd to last paragraph).

Bob Elam Bob-in-TX
Feb 18

We normally wait a week or two after posting the program before showing the three bids here, where everyone can see them.

But this is not a normal year. Should we post the bids now? 

I've entered Trea's to show how they are displayed.

Alex Patton Alex
Feb 18

Alex, I'm subscribed and logged in, but not yet seeing the new bid prices with the stat scans. Any suggestions?

Bob Elam Bob-in-TX
Feb 18

If you play in an NL-only and have subscribed, perhaps the first thing you did after downloading the program (or the Excel file), is sort hitters by the value of Peter's projections.

And this is what you saw:

T Turner 42

F Tatis 42

J Soto 37

R Acuna 35

S Marte 34

That's if you play in 5x5. If you played in 4x4:

F Tatis 47

T Turner 46

J Soto 40

R Acuna 39

S Marte 39

The best hitters and pitchers earn more in 4x4 because the lesser hitters and pitchers earn less.

Trea drops behind Tatis in 4x4 because his runs don't count in 4x4.

Those are pricing issues. Except when it comes to closers, there are effectively no bidding differences in the two formats.

If you have subscribed, here are the three sets of bids that you see for Trea:

PK5 41

MF5 37

AP4 40

If Peter, Mike and I play in the same league (4x4 or 5x5), Peter gets Trea.

If Peter gets Trea for $41 and if his projection is dead-on, he gets a profit, even in 5x5.

Why isn't Peter's bid limit $42 if he projects him to earn $42?

There are many ways to answer that question but the short one is: bids are bets, projections are predictions.

What is Peter's projection for Trea?

If you've subscribed, you can see the projection. Not just in the program (or Excel or text file). You can see it right here. Highlighted in a different color at the bottom of the stat scan.

Which is very cool. As good a reason as any to subscribe.

Alex Patton Alex
Feb 17

2021 HardHit% has been corrected.

Alex Patton Alex
Jan 6

Is this why Trea doesn't get the respect (I think) he deserves in WAR and various other advanced metrics?

All MLB hitters (minimum 200 PA) ranked by xBA

Freddie Freeman .319 

Michael Brantley .312

Kyle Tucker .307

Ketel Marte .307

Aaron Judge .306

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. .306

Juan Soto .304

Trea Turner .303

PS: His Statcast HardHit% was 46, not 35.

Alex Patton Alex
Jan 3