Stan Musial St. Louis Cardinals

Age: 101 (November 21, 1920) | aka Stan the Man | 6' 0" | 175lbs. | Bats: Left
Tm Lg YEAR G AB R H BB SO 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BA OBP SLG BB% SO% BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
STL NL 1941 12 47 8 20 2 1 4 0 1 7 1 0 .426 .449 .574 4 2 .422 n/a
STL NL 1942 140 467 87 147 62 25 32 10 10 72 6 0 .315 .397 .490 12 5 .317 n/a
STL NL 1943 157 617 108 220 72 18 48 20 13 81 9 0 .357 .425 .562 10 3 .353 n/a
STL NL 1944 146 568 112 197 90 28 51 14 12 94 7 0 .347 .440 .549 13 4 .350 n/a
STL NL 1946 156 624 124 228 73 31 50 20 16 103 7 0 .365 .434 .587 10 4 .367 n/a
STL NL 1947 149 587 113 183 80 24 30 13 19 95 4 0 .312 .398 .504 12 4 .301 n/a
STL NL 1948 155 611 135 230 79 34 46 18 39 131 7 0 .376 .450 .702 11 5 .355 n/a
STL NL 1949 157 612 128 207 107 38 41 13 36 123 3 0 .338 .438 .624 15 5 .318 n/a
STL NL 1950 146 555 105 192 87 36 41 7 28 109 5 0 .346 .437 .596 13 6 .334 n/a
STL NL 1951 152 578 124 205 98 40 30 12 32 108 4 5 .355 .449 .614 14 6 .342 n/a
STL NL 1952 154 578 105 194 96 29 42 6 21 91 7 7 .336 .432 .538 14 4 .328 n/a
STL NL 1953 157 593 127 200 105 32 53 9 30 113 3 4 .337 .437 .609 15 5 .320 n/a
STL NL 1954 153 591 120 195 103 39 41 9 35 126 1 7 .330 .428 .607 15 6 .305 n/a
STL NL 1955 154 562 97 179 80 39 30 5 33 108 5 4 .319 .408 .566 12 6 .296 n/a
STL NL 1956 156 594 87 184 75 39 33 6 27 109 2 0 .310 .386 .522 11 6 .293 n/a
STL NL 1957 134 502 82 176 66 34 38 3 29 102 1 1 .351 .422 .612 11 6 .329 n/a
STL NL 1958 135 472 64 159 72 26 35 2 17 62 0 0 .337 .423 .528 13 5 .328 n/a
STL NL 1959 115 341 37 87 60 25 13 2 14 44 0 2 .255 .364 .428 15 6 .239 n/a
STL NL 1960 116 331 49 91 41 34 17 1 17 63 1 1 .275 .354 .486 11 9 .261 n/a
STL NL 1961 123 372 46 107 52 35 22 4 15 70 0 0 .288 .371 .489 12 8 .280 n/a
STL NL 1962 135 433 57 143 64 46 18 1 19 82 3 0 .330 .416 .508 13 9 .332 n/a
STL NL 1963 124 337 34 86 35 43 10 2 12 58 2 0 .255 .325 .404 9 11 .258 n/a
Career 22yrs 3026 10972 1949 3630 1599 696 725 177 475 1951 78 31 .331 .417 .559 13 6 .320 n/a
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Pujols has a good shot at joining them. .325 avg .313 BABIP.
van wilhoite LVW
Apr 13 '13
Follow-up to the just-posted Mattingly comment.
Alex Patton Alex
Apr 13 '13
I think the point is that Ruth, Williams, Gehrig is a false group. Musial is certainly there, probably not fourth. But of course we have other apples to compare with oranges.

Like someone probably said in a movie: "Enough with the ranking! It's bullshit."

Anytime someone ranks something they're yanking your chain.
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Apr 12 '13
They do.

And I'm reminded I very much liked Eugene's last sentence when I read it back in January.
Alex Patton Alex
Apr 12 '13
Put the game on to see St. Louis fans pay tribute to Stan the Man. Best fans is baseball....harmonica tributes for Musial....They get it.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Apr 12 '13
A better query, of course, would be 8000+ PA, .400+ OBP, and .500+ SLG. Musial is not in SO elite territory, yet he's quite elite. He ranks 10th among 22 players who meet those minimums ranked by OPS+ Not surprisingly the top 4 are Ruth, Williams, Bonds, and Gehrig. Musial also ranks behind Hornsby, Mantle, Pujols, Cobb, and Foxx and just ahead of Speaker, Frank Thomas, Mel Ott, and Manny Ramirez in the crowd of 150 and higher OPS+. Pujols is entering his decline phase, so he could slip. But, being one of the top 10 hitting players of all-time is not any slight on Musial.

If we rank them by Batting WAR, Musial jumps to 6th behind only Ruth, Bonds, Williams, Cobb, and Gehrig. Of course WAR is a counting stat so Musial's career length benefits him compared to Hornsby, Mantle, and Foxx, and of course Pujols.

Ranking them by WAR total (including defense and all that other good stuff) he ranks 6th with Williams and Gehrig dropping behind and Speaker and Hornsby moving up ahead.

I think it's no stretch of the imagination to say that Musial is one of the top 10 most valuable position players of all-time, even higher for career value if that matters more to you than rate of production, but he's no slouch in that regard either.

Forcing him into a false group with Ruth, Williams, and Gehrig isn't necessary.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Jan 21 '13
Today on MLB Network they were talking about how he was one of only 4 players to have at least a .331 career average and 475 HRs(Ruth, Gehrig, and Teddy Ballgame) and how that was great company to be in.

I always laugh when they say stuff like that. The Babe hit 11 points higher and had 239 more HRs; so they are NOT in the same company.

The wonders of sliced data and using the absolute minimum to get someone in a select group of players.
van wilhoite LVW
Jan 21 '13
God that 1948 year was phenomenal.
Justin Dowling BGWoodsman
Jan 21 '13
Ted had an extra 400+ walks and 13 extra Ks.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Jan 21 '13
Williams, of course, was a hard guy to strike out himself. I wonder if the difference is explained entirely by more backward K's for the much more picky Splinter.
Alex Patton Alex
Jan 21 '13