Thread: Stage Four

It doesn’t exist. But we keep hoping.

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$45 is exactly what I valued Yelich at with inflation. I think if you have a tendency to leave money on the table, I do, one approach is to buy the better players ie higher priced you want at or over par value, but not by more than a few dollars. So, that is an excellent buy, Mike.

carter carter GypsySoul
Apr 7

We paid $45 for Yelich, so clearly we agree with Howard.  Our only
goal for PCL 2021:  not leave 10 or 12 bucks on the table like last
year, or what we call the Gregory Polanco Fiasco. 

Mission accomplished. So that's something.

Mike Landau ML-
Apr 7

Howard -- we've been throwing out the "buy your mistakes" theme since that time we shared a team in 1989 and bid 24 on Chris James to be our 3B.

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Apr 7

I think the difference is between a redraft league and a protection league.  In a redraft league, you need to get players less than what you have on your list because you don't have any value built in. If everyone drafts a $260 team for $260, you know what happens.

In a keeper league, you want to draft people between their raw value and their inflation value - or under their raw value if you can get that lucky.

I guess you can say inflation value is what you want to buy under, but everyone allocates inflation differently, so it's not quite the same as a redraft, when player prices are pretty well known before the draft even begins.  For example, I had Trout valued at $32 raw and $60 inflation. I paid $50. I considered it a good buy. Meanwhile, I had Jose Ramirez $31 and $58. Ramirez went for $52. I had Trout already, so I couldn't bid $53 but even still, I thought I did better because I had Ramirez cheaper than Trout and he went for more than Trout.  When Merrifield came up a bit later; I had him for $26 and $49. He went for $51. More than Trout, but also more than my inflation value.  Under my system of pricing, he not only used up someone's protection value, but also ate into their $260 base.  

Maybe someone was allocating inflation by category instead of by hitters/pitchers like I do. If so, Merrifield was more valuable (inflation value) than Trout b/c SB were more scarce in my league after keepers were submitted. But, that's mere speculation. As advanced as my league is, I doubt anyone was calculating inflation by category.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Apr 7

re: Roto in a nutshell ... (see PCL thread) ... if you go into an auction with a mindset of "seeking value" (ie. i'll only buy guys for less than I have them on my list) ... what that translates to (in a "good league") is "getting your mistakes" :-)

And we all make mistakes ... right?

So what's the alternative?  "get your guys" ... which means "overpay ... till it hurts ... and hope you get lucky on the scrubs" ...

So ... we're back to ... how to "zag"?

Howard Lynch LynchMob
Apr 7

Jason Martinez ran Roster Resource as a one man show for several years and now works for Fangraphs.

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Feb 26

Roster Resouce was acquired or adopted by Fangraphs (I'm not sure which) and load times got a lot better. That's good.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Feb 26

I've been using Roster Resource for years and I missed it. I'll second your thoughts, Peter...it's a beaut! Thanks for the headsup, Seadog. 

Tim McLeod tlmcleod
Feb 25

I hadn't noticed that Roster Resource page. What an aesthetic!

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Feb 25