Thread: Stage Four

It doesn’t exist. But we keep hoping.

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Exactly Gene. The question was how much BA, ERA and WHIP to give up to improve the quantitatives. Here's my answer today. 



Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Apr 5 '20

I tried to weight the cats as equally as I could for that exact reason: we don't know what everyone else will do. X percent will themselves attempt balance (I would guess the majority but that could be wrong). Y percent will accept less here to get more there, and I'm assuming that they will balance each other. The extent to which my Y assumption is wrong will decide a lot.

And then perfect balance in ten cats is impossible. At the end you have to sacrifice one or more cats here to get better cats there. I think I'm chasing my tail.

Gene McCaffrey GeneM
Apr 5 '20

I was busy and didn't get to this, and then avoided reading this thread because I wanted to do my own. The biggest issue is you don't know how to weight the categories. I've got George Brett and Greg Maddux on this team because those were tremendous seasons, but they might make this team less competitive under this scoring... Whoops, just noticed I had two 1994s. Be back soon.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Apr 5 '20

There are 86 rookie seasons of better than 3.20 ERA in at least 185 IP, but only SIX of 200+ K's. Of the 86, 41 of them had under 100 Ks. The last 200+ was Nomo in 1995.

Gene McCaffrey GeneM
Apr 4 '20

According to baseball-reference.com, since 1901 there are only 71 rookie seasons of 500 PAs with at least a .795 OPS - and only 15 of .900 or better. 30 or more SBs = 39 times. Something of an argument against Luis Robert...

Gene McCaffrey GeneM
Apr 4 '20

I would figure the time span for any of these can be arbitrary. 

van wilhoite LVW
Apr 4 '20

That sounds great -- no worries about repeating the player, the team or the year!

But can we go back further than 1980?

Alex Patton Alex
Apr 4 '20

Another one that intrigues me to try.....same rules using only a player's rookie season as the base. 

van wilhoite LVW
Apr 3 '20

Project GOAT had over 200 submissions, so it's going to take them a little while to plug everything into however they plan to score it.  I'm glad I went one closer, because I should be able to be near the top in ERA/Ratio/Wins/Ks and still have more than the bottom of the barrel in saves.  But, two closers might have been the sweet spot if you could pull off the best option.  Someone reminded me that Keith Foulke had 9 Wins one year along with 43 Saves a 0.888 WHIP and 88 Ks.  Not a bad one to drop in there to get W, Svs, and WHIP.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Apr 3 '20

Of course LVW, that works. It frees up Marichal '66! One cool thing: some big SP's have a few Saves here and there.

Gene McCaffrey GeneM
Apr 3 '20