Thread: Stage Four

It doesn’t exist. But we keep hoping.

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So the Ottoneu leagues have a very interesting approach to keepers and salaries.

1) There are no limits on the number of keepers, per se.

2) Every major leaguer's salary goes up by $2 per offseason. Every minor leaguer's salary goes up by $1 per season.

3) Teams vote for one player from each other team to be released and put back in the pool the following season. If there is a tie then the tie-breakers is based on the lowest standings holder who voted for one of the tied players.

In PCL my best guess at who would have been voted back into the pool

Soto, Alonso, Hiura, Buehler, etc.

Juices up the draft pool for sure. You sort of have to have a few studs and you never know who the other owners might come for.

It would also serve as "dump trading" bromide since a top value player might get forced of your roster and a $20 starting pitcher wouldn't disappear after 3 years, he'd just become a $22 next season (assuming he had started at $16 and moved his way up). 

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Dec 13 '19

Perhaps a Stage One observation, but it's interesting.

Top three teams in the Grapefruit League this year:

Yankees 17-10

Astros 18-12

Nationals 17-12

Bottom three:

Rays 13-17

Orioles 12-17

Red Sox 12-17

The Rays, as usual, are the outlier.

Alex Patton Alex
Oct 23 '19

The AFL has moved up this year, and so has First Pitch Arizona.

It's the 25th anniversary and there are still a few seats left.

Alex Patton Alex
Sep 4 '19

What kind of a fantasy buy would Jerry Lynch had been in 1961 with Pinch AB(PAB) as a category in an OBP league. .407 OB%(210 PA) 33R 13HR 50RBI 2SB 47PAB

van wilhoite LVW
Aug 26 '19

Has anybody ever tried "bullpen innings pitched" as a category?

Or, similarly, "pinch hit at-bats"?

Howard Lynch LynchMob
Aug 26 '19

Been pushing for awhile in my home league to just make the 23rd spot a "swing spot" that can be used for a hitter or pitcher.  It's a half-step that acknowledges the reality Peter notes below.

Phil Ponebshek Texpope
Aug 12 '19

I think there is a subtle change in the FA pool for pitchers when you go to 10 pitchers in an AL or NL league. With 9 pitchers there are always safe as milk relievers with decent strikeout rates available. With 10 pitchers in any given week the best available guys are LOOGYS like Oliver Perez. The 12 extra pitchers sucks up the safe as milk talent. Makes it much more challenging to determine who might be helpful from week to week.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Aug 12 '19

With all the movement in today's 25-man MLB squads, there seems to be a replacement level hitter or two available most weeks. Plain Wheeler Dealer League (AL, 1991, now 5x5) has been 13 and 10 for at least 5 years. It does not change the FA pool for pitchers, nor prices at auction, as those pitchers at the end usually are $1.

In our league, no active player may be kept on minors/injured list more than two weeks, though one of our owners takes great pleasure in keeping a player (or two) on that reserve squad to the limit. 

David Molyneaux NeauxBrainers ()
Aug 11 '19

That works for me, though I think my scheme would end up with the same players rostered. Though maybe enforcing two Catchers would make a difference. I'm fine either way, but 13 rather than 14 hitters won't really improve the FA pool much, but it will mean one fewer bum you have to carry.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Aug 11 '19

As for the reduced hitters, Peter spelling it out has given me an idea. Two C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, Four OF, IF, UT, UT.  This is one extra IF (any), one extra OF, and then two open hitting spots.  

My league's current free agents are 7 Catchers, 1 2B, 2 3B, 3 SS, 7 OF, and Dylan Moore 2/3/S/O, and 81 pitchers.  And, that's with 14 hitters and 10 pitchers active.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Aug 11 '19