Thread: Stage Four

It doesn’t exist. But we keep hoping.

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I think it's about time that the ROTO world consider a structural change in teams, eliminating a hitter and adding a tenth pitcher.

The main reason is that major league clubs are going to deeper bullpens and shorter benches.  So when you take a look at the free agent listings, they are incredibly skewed (number wise) with pitchers.

I would suggest combining/replacing: CR, MI, OF5 into UT-IF, UT-OFIB to more realistically approach the real world and then add PITCHER-10.

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Apr 20 '17

And just realized that my team is as West-Coast heavy as it's ever been (only three players playing home games in EST), and that's going to make setting the lineup a bitch every day.

Mike Dean TMU2009
Apr 15 '17


Your prices served us well again.  In a 4x4 12-team AL-only, we are showing a profit (based on your 4/6 prices) of $27.  Not a stack, but our keepers weren't great.  We should be clearly upper-half, although we have started slowly.

Things we liked:  Gurriel at $8, Andrelton Simmons at $6, Soler at $8, McHugh at $4 (even now), Garrett Richards at $8 (even now).

Things we don't like:  Andrus at $25 (STEALS!), Martin Maldonado at $2 (and our main catcher is Gary Sanchez).

Thanks as always.

Mike Dean TMU2009
Apr 12 '17

4x4 $260 NL only in a 30+ year old league

keepers: Trea $10, Peraza $10, Hernan Perez $7, Pederson $10 & Duvall $5

most plan (hard to call it a strategy) was to spend on hitters and then spend more on hitters.  Pitchers are mostly a crap shoot.

Not intentionally i filled my 14 hitters before buying a single pitcher;

Mesoraco, Votto, Justin Turner, Rizzo, Gyorko, Eaton, Piscotty, Reynolds

and then at the end of the draft, $14 for 9 pitchers;

Leake, Jaime Garcia, Ryu, Wood, Chen, Ray, Rivero, Strickland & Dayton

should be a real interesting season

mark maurer Tuffy
Apr 7 '17

Yeah, Stage 3 . . . it's rough.  Even more important, then, to have bid prices that actually add up, and the will to stick by them.  We still have a few owners who, I believe, are pretty much making it up as they go along.

Mike Dean TMU2009
Mar 27 '17

In my league people bounce back and forth from announcing players to clear cash from competitors (either stat specific or best player by position/pitcher available) or players they want for themselves.  Because the draft order rarely affects prices in Stage 3 clearing cash has its value because it takes people out of the running for other players.  Grabbing players you want early also has its value because you can structure your team around them.  In most cases, it's a wash. Because, Stage 3.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Mar 26 '17

Like all of these kinds of tactics, they tend to work sporadically, until other owner see it worked in past years and get wise to it. Sometimes they overreact; shows the wisdom of having a comprehensive bit list that adds up, and a way to keep track of whether the league is over- or under-spending, so you can decide whether to be buying or hanging back early. Regardless of who get called out early. (Early is harder to suss, of course, but that's when it's important to keep to your bid limits. Later is when you need to be more flexible.)

mike fenger mike
Mar 26 '17
I've had mixed results on toss the hotshot rookie early that I DONT want.  I'm usually counting on a bidding war, but don't always get it.
Kent Ostby Seadogs
Mar 26 '17

Some owners try to nominate a lower-end guy early, on the theory that people will let him go by at a decent price because there are so many options left.  Can't say that it seems to work.  But we have our closer going in this year, and we will be nominating closers early and often.

Mike Dean TMU2009
Mar 26 '17
With a few exceptions, I just bring up the highest dollar player on my list.  I don't want to leave some $20 outfielder until late and then realize that I don't have the hammer.

I do less of the going twice bidding now that it's online.  It's less satisfying when you can't hear someone cursing you in the same room.
Kent Ostby Seadogs
Mar 26 '17