Thread: Stage Four

It doesn’t exist. But we keep hoping.

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Seems a lot of sticking to either the original format or 5x5 is about being able to use Alex, Peter and Mike's (who knows, maybe even someone else's!) values as a baseline to work from. Until this changes I am reluctant to go to a different format.

BTW, I am very interested if there is an opening in PCL for next year though probably lots of people are.
carter carter GypsySoul
Sep 18 '14
What's "better"? Better reflects the underlying quality of a hitter? Sure.

But most leagues use saves, even in 5x5, and nobody thinks saves are really reflective of a pitcher's quality.

We still do 4x4 because we always have, since '85. It's a game, not intended to be the most accurate possible measure of . . . well, anything.
Mike Dean TMU2009
Sep 18 '14
What does this community want to be "the standard" roto game?

Originally it was 4x4 ... enough folks are still playing 4x4 that AP's bids show up here ...

It seems like the majority now plays 5x5 with Rs and Ks added to standard/by-the-book 4x4 ...

And ... based on Tout Wars ... it seems like there is some movement to 5x5 with OBP replacing BA ...

So ... here's what I really want to know ... is there a consensus here that 5x5 with OBP should be the standard roto game?

I'm going to propose to the PCL owners to change ...

Another implication of this will be if/when the PK and MF 5x5 bids change (or at least are added) ...

I really, really, really appreciate the Tout Wars leadership on this ... how is that going?

Is there any doubt that using OBP is better than using BA?

Why has it been so slow to be adopted? I guess it turns out that we, the fans (even the super-fans, the stat-geek-fans), are as "traditional" as the folks who run MLB :-)
Howard Lynch LynchMob
Sep 18 '14
I've been wondering about how the San Diego / Arizona front office shakeups will effect players futures.

Any opinions on if these teams will be trying to go the build from within or cheap-ish veterans to bridge the gap?

It seems like SD has a lot of options for starting pitching going into next season.

Hoping Benoit is moved since I have Quack in all of my keeper leagues.
Kent Ostby Seadogs
Sep 15 '14
The League is all set up and ready to roll folks. There are still several open slots so if anyone else is interested get back to me asap. I'll send the invites out tomorrow evening. Slyke and Tex, can you send me an e-mail so I have an address handy to forward the invite? Thanks to all those that have expressed an interest. It should be a fun time!
Tim McLeod tlmcleod
Sep 15 '14
I'm in!

Always wanted to organize one - never could get the critical mass.
Phil Ponebshek Texpope
Sep 14 '14
Me too.

My only prior post season draft was put together with member of the American Dream League. We met at the Cedar Tavern, home of New York's beatniks and village voice writers and abstract expressionists.

All I remember is that I ended up with Alejandro Pena and he had a massive series for the Dodgers.

This year I'm looking for two Penas.
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Sep 14 '14
I am in, Tim. Sign me up!
Keith Cromer Slyke
Sep 14 '14
Are you still craving more Fantasy Baseball? The end of the regular season is just around the corner but that doesn't mean the game has to end. If you wish to postpone (for a few additional weeks) the horrible withdrawal that we all endure, do I have a deal for you. (yes, I'm wearing my plaid jacket) If the interest is there, I'm looking at assembling a 10 or 12-team post-season points League, with a live draft. (looking at Sept. 29 @ 9EDT) The draft takes all of 1/2 hour but one has to be in attendance. Auto-pick just doesn't get it done. Your roster would consist of 4 pitchers and 6 bats, with no bench. There is a waiver wire with a limit of ten pickups. Being that it is a playoff League, the player pool is a bit thin, so as I've done in the past all players are eligible to be drafted twice. It adds a very nice wrinkle to the game and allows for a competitive League. If anyone is interested in partaking, email me at [email protected] and if we can muster a quorum, the inaugural Patton & Co Post Season League will debut this October.
Tim McLeod tlmcleod
Sep 14 '14
Lynchmob, I think 85 says good league, or at least a good year of relative balance. Plain Wheeler Dealer League (5x5), a keeper league since 1991, went 85/81.5/81 in 2013; 89/82/78.5 in 2012/ 80/79.5/79/79 in 2011;

But this crazy year we will have two teams at mid-90s or above, one of whom looks to finish over 100.
David Molyneaux NeauxBrainr
Sep 10 '14