Thread: Stage Four

It doesn’t exist. But we keep hoping.

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Home league FAABS:

Cody Asche for $11 to Fugitive Recovery (bid on by 8 teams)

Chad Bettis for $7 to The Burninators

Brett Pill for $5 to Deer Antler Spray (wins tiebreaker over Big Ballers)

David Aardsma for $4 to Fugitive Recovery

Logan Watkins for $3 to The Burninators

Tony Cruz for $3 to Money In The Banks

Donnie Murphy for $3 to Big Ballers

Mike Baxter for $2 to Big Ballers

Dale Thayer for $2 to Fugitive Recovery

Brandon Kintzler for $2 to Fugitive Recovery

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Aug 6 '13
It's been years since I actually did the math, but I believe, with free loot, teams end up earning about $270 on average.

Not a huge amount of loot, except when one or two teams get the lion's share.
Alex Patton Alex
Aug 2 '13
Seadogs, if I'm following you right, these are the guys Alex says represent "free loot." They cost nothing on draft day and only FAAB after. The dilute the value of players bought in the auction and present a problem for roto pricers.

I think Alex's solution is the most elegant when it comes to determining inseason value. He prices the draft pool, then assigns free loot to players as they track with draft day values.

This is a whole season approach based on actual productivity compared to the actual pool, so you have to make the mental adjustment about the replacement pool of players who filled in for Puig (for example) in the two+ months before he was called up. They are a reason to bid more a risky player with potential, since you're paying for an active slot (and get a free replacement for the time the guy you buy is down).
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Aug 1 '13
No adjustment. A player earns what his stats are worth, no matter how long it takes to produce them.
Alex Patton Alex
Aug 1 '13
Wouldn't there need to be an adjustment of the earnings based on how long they have been up since for example comparing someone who got called up in the middle of April to someone that got called up in late June- the April call up might earn more only because he had a 2 month head start?
van wilhoite LVW
Aug 1 '13
Since I'm talking about the draft portion of a roto league, I'm talking about players who started this season in the minors and then came up to the majors and started earning.

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Aug 1 '13
Define "minor leaguers" ...

Because minor leaguers don't earn anything until they become "major leaguers" :-)
Howard Lynch LynchMob
Aug 1 '13
One other list that I think would be good to build (I'm mentioning it here in case people know of a quick way to get this) is a list of minor leaguers who have earned the most $$$ throughout the year.

Interesting for the obvious reason of trying to inform for next year's drafts.

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Aug 1 '13
Home League FAABs for today (Atlanta based league, cut anyone for FAAB, minimum bid is $2):

Jenry Mejia to Von Doom for $9
Charlie Culberson to Money in the Banks for $7
Tyson Ross to Von Doom for $5
Roger Kieschnick to Money in the Banks for $5
Tony Sanchez to Fugitive Recovery for $4
Corey DIckerson to Preplexing Slowball for $3
Khris Davis to A Solid .215 for $2
Julio Borbon to Black Sox for $2
Scott Downs to Black Sox for $2
Kent Ostby Seadogs
Jul 30 '13
Whoops ... I posted to soon.

Lake went for $9 not $7 and to a different team (Burninators).
Kent Ostby Seadogs
Jul 23 '13