Thread: Stage Four

It doesn’t exist. But we keep hoping.

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Nice job, Texpope.

Solid value, and that reserve auction was STRONG.

I value pitching, so I like the aggressiveness on the pitching staff while still being able to pluck some bargains on the hitting side.

Well done, Sir. (Still miss you in the PCL league).
Keith Cromer Slyke
Feb 26 '13
MG - how did you watch?

Any idea when full draft data will be on-line?
Howard Lynch LynchMob
Feb 26 '13
Was looking at the picks after the draft and I really liked his pitching picks and their values, especially in relation to 2nd and 3rd tier guys' prices. On offense he went with some higer risk/reward guys like Soriano at $10 and Mayberry at $5. Also really like the Ethier selection at $19. Good luck to Texpope!
Bob Elam Bob-in-TX
Feb 26 '13
I don't want to steal his thunder, so I'll leave it to him to do a write-up but I had the opportunity to watch most of the Patton & Company's entrant in today's CBS NL only draft. I can safely say that Toz and I passed the torch well.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 26 '13
I'm with you, SD ... which is why I'm very happy to see the Tout folks start toward OBP ... yes, it's better ... it's just not (yet) standard ...

So ... PK / Rotoman ... when are you going to switch the $ in The Fantasy Baseball Guide to be OBP-based??? You are where rubber is meeting the road :-)
Howard Lynch LynchMob
Feb 22 '13
In my 12 team AL only 5x5 I frequently have 2-4 middle relievers in my lineup at any time. That said, I don't have a closer, so one of those spots or two would usually be taken up by a closer on a traditional roster. I vary my starters between 5-6 depending what I need, but I generally go for strong ERA/Ratio pitchers so I don't take a 6th starter unless he doesn't undermine me in the formulaic categories.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 22 '13
I'm currently in 4 leagues.

2 "real leagues" (i.e. NL Only Ultra with 12 teams)

1 Ottoneu league (400 salary cap, 40 man roster, 12 team mixed (though I only buy NL players))

1 eight team re-draft mixed league (sorry, it's my cousin's fault) where I still only draft NL players.

All are 5x5 leagues

I'm not a fan of OBP simply because there is less data out there for it. I tend to fight these changes (like the change to 5x5) until there is so much momentum for it that all of the annuals DEFAULT ratings are based on OBP.
Kent Ostby Seadogs
Feb 22 '13
My main experience in 5x5 is in a 15-team mixed league, where there is no place whatsoever for middle relievers. You are probably right that they have real value in AL and NL-only leagues. Less than they should have (if the goal is to somewhat resemble real baseball) but far more than I claim they are worth (which is nothing) in the Frazier thread.
Alex Patton Alex
Feb 22 '13
Jumping off the Todd Frazier thread.

I still don't buy the "take a crappy starter over a great setup guy" logic. Crappy starters don't win many games and can kill you in two rate categories.

Good/great setup guys get you decent K's, a few wins, two good value categories, and a change to be a closer.
Kent Ostby Seadogs
Feb 22 '13
The leagues that I am in don't allow bidding on players with Rookie eligibility who are not on 25 man rosters. Minor leaguers who have exhausted rookie eligibility are available, but, really, who wants them.

Using Texpope's numbers the mean value is $4 and the median is $1. One lottery ticket. Not exactly great value.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Jan 30 '13