Thread: Stage Four

It doesn’t exist. But we keep hoping.

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I am in for Doubt Wars, in AL only. Sent in my list this morning. Always did this for myself in the past. Great concept. Thanks.
David Molyneaux NeauxBrainr
Mar 30 '13
We have drafted for several years at a place of business of one of the owners, but had to move it this year to a restaurant.

As a non-drinker, I'm considering investing the first round of beer for my fellow drafters to help influence the outcome shall we say.

I recall a fantasy football draft in a similar setting many years ago where the first few rounds bogged down and went very slowly allowing for more alcohol to flow. A lot of interesting picks that night.
Kent Ostby Seadogs
Mar 30 '13
I think the XFL has a unique set of rules, so there is no expert advantage in terms of analysis. You can spend all week and month and year doing roto analysis and the rules of this league render it unimportant.

The key is figuring out this league. Alex and I won the first year because we had the best strategy, and we had the best reserve draft. With a couple of exceptions we've remained competitive because of our keeps and our approach, but we haven't had a killer season for a while.

Don and Jeff are excellent players, work hard, and have done some excellent analysis. That is, they aren't pros, they may be helped by that to some extent (though that's to the pros' discredit), but they are analytical and talented enough to compete (needless to say) ably.

The shallow league is not the issue. We carry 40 man rosters, so we're 600 players deep, rostered. You need to know the pool to its depth, but as in all shallower leagues, your personel decisions are often made more in a void than in a deep roto league. That means more chances to make mistakes.

It's been a fantastically fun experiment, and I give all credit to Don and Jeff for figuring it out and being too good competitors.
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 29 '13
Is is fair to "blame" the fact that the league is 15-team-mixer as the excuse that "not pros" are dominating it?

ie. Aren't you the least bit tempted to make it a classic "only" league?

Or would you lose your "friends" then? :-)

Or are Don & Jeff the experts ... and you/Alex/Steve/Doug/etc are just pro's?
Howard Lynch LynchMob
Mar 29 '13
We're in year 11 of the XFL. Alex and I partner.

It is may of the usual pros and a few friends who aren't pros. They are winning by a large margin. In 10 years: Pro champs are Alex and me, Steve Moyer, and Doug Dennis.

Don Drooker has won four times and Jeff Winick has won three times.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 29 '13
Thx ... that's a 15-team mixed league ... http://www.fantasyxperts.com/
Howard Lynch LynchMob
Mar 29 '13
XFL is an expert keeper mixed. Rotoman is involved in that.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Mar 29 '13
Are there any "Expert Keeper Leagues"?

Has "Tout" considered doing this? For example, one idea would be to figure out a way to assess "long-term health of franchise" ... and then the objective of the "Expert Keeper League" would be to balance "win now" vs "win next year" ... and the method would be to randomly assign franchises to experts at the beginning of each year ... and then we, the roto-proletariat, learn from the experts about options for how to "play for next year" :-)
Howard Lynch LynchMob
Mar 29 '13
Doubt Wars scoring is all the teams are ranked in all the cats and scored. If there were 50 teams in the league the top score in each category would be 50.
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 28 '13
One of the changes I've seen in my keeper leagues the past few years has been extended contracts for minor leaguers especially in leagues where there is no penalty for cutting people on long term contracts.

In my home league, Rendon at 5:O is going to be at 15:C meaning the control over him is extended for 2 more seasons (a total of 5).

Since my home league has no penalty extending such a player there is no real penalty for doing this for 1 year although the 2 years done above could cost the person a keeper if they would have kept Rendon at 10 but won't at 15.

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Mar 28 '13