Tim Raines Montreal Expos

Age: 61 (September 16, 1959) | aka Rock | 5' 9" | 202lbs. | Bats: Both
Tm Lg YEAR G AB R H BB SO 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BA OBP SLG BB% SO% BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
MON NL 1979 6 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 0.00 n/a
MON NL 1980 15 20 5 1 6 3 0 0 0 0 5 0 .050 .269 .050 22 12 .059 n/a
MON NL 1981 88 313 61 95 45 31 13 7 5 37 71 11 .304 .391 .438 12 9 .321 n/a
MON NL 1982 156 647 90 179 75 83 32 8 4 43 78 16 .277 .353 .369 10 12 .312 n/a
MON NL 1983 156 615 133 183 97 70 32 8 11 71 90 14 .298 .393 .429 13 10 .320 n/a
MON NL 1984 160 622 106 192 87 69 38 9 8 60 75 10 .309 .393 .437 12 10 .335 n/a
MON NL 1985 150 575 115 184 81 60 30 13 11 41 70 9 .320 .405 .475 12 9 .341 n/a
MON NL 1986 151 580 91 194 78 60 35 10 9 62 70 9 .334 .413 .476 12 9 .360 n/a
MON NL 1987 139 530 123 175 90 52 34 8 18 68 50 5 .330 .429 .526 14 8 .339 n/a
MON NL 1988 109 429 66 116 53 44 19 7 12 48 33 7 .270 .350 .431 11 9 .276 n/a
MON NL 1989 145 517 76 148 93 48 29 6 9 60 41 9 .286 .395 .418 15 8 .299 n/a
MON NL 1990 130 457 65 131 70 43 11 5 9 62 49 16 .287 .379 .392 13 8 .295 n/a
CHA AL 1991 155 609 102 163 83 68 20 6 5 50 51 15 .268 .359 .345 12 10 .293 n/a
CHA AL 1992 144 551 102 162 81 48 22 9 7 54 45 6 .294 .380 .405 13 8 .308 n/a
CHA AL 1993 115 415 75 127 64 35 16 4 16 54 21 7 .306 .401 .480 13 7 .303 n/a
CHA AL 1994 101 384 80 102 61 43 15 5 10 52 13 0 .266 .365 .409 13 10 .275 n/a
CHA AL 1995 133 502 81 143 70 52 25 4 12 67 13 2 .285 .374 .422 12 9 .297 n/a
NYA AL 1996 59 201 45 57 34 29 10 0 9 33 10 1 .284 .383 .468 14 12 .287 n/a
NYA AL 1997 74 271 56 87 41 34 20 2 4 38 8 5 .321 .403 .454 13 11 .347 n/a
NYA AL 1998 109 321 53 93 55 49 13 1 5 47 8 3 .290 .395 .383 14 13 .326 n/a
OAK AL 1999 58 135 20 29 26 17 5 0 4 17 4 1 .215 .337 .341 16 10 .216 n/a
MON NL 2001 47 78 13 24 18 6 8 1 0 4 1 0 .308 .433 .436 19 6 .329 n/a
BAL AL 2001 4 11 1 3 0 3 0 0 1 5 0 0 .273 .250 .545 0 25 .250 n/a
FLA NL 2002 98 89 9 17 22 19 3 0 1 7 0 0 .191 .351 .258 19 17 .225 n/a -1
Career 23yrs 2502 8872 1571 2605 1330 966 430 113 170 980 808 146 .294 .385 .425 13 9 .312 n/a
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The obvious problem with Raines's case - the previous era of baseball didn't really understand what made him good. The era didn't know how to appreciate him, didn't see how his value should be reflected with award consideration and such. And then revisionists look back, see empty hardware, shrug.

The delicious irony with this general argument: the nuances that made Joe Morgan a terrific player were largely lost on Joe Morgan, the announcer.
scott pianowski ballfour
Jan 9 '14
One thing I'll say for the HOF guys as a collective group - I don't think there were that many legitimate snubs before the current era. I saw the pro and con case for Santo. There are some guys, heck, who probably shouldn't be in. Illogical ballots to the side, I don't think the results have been that bad ... well, until all hell broke loose in the current era.

But yes, Raines is a snub. He belongs.

Trammell? Whitaker? Borderline to me. You can't let everyone in. You have to draw a line somewhere. The Hall of Very Good has to have some players, else Paul O'Neill becomes a Hall of Famer someday.
scott pianowski ballfour
Jan 9 '14
Here's an idea: Take a couple of PED years off from voting guys in, and get a committee (including 80+ year old former sportswriters), and starting kicking guys out of the HOF.

You can keep those guys in the Hall in a 'Hall of Recognition' or something; but let's get rid of some of the dead weight so that the HOF means something.

And while we're at it, put Bonds in because he was great, keep Clemens out because he's a douche, and for the love of God put Pete Rose in.

You can read all my Hall of Fame musings at:

www.MookieBelongsInTheHall.com.org/edu.uk
Keith Prosseda andypro
Jan 8 '14
I looked it up on his HR Log on baseball-reference.
van wilhoite LVW
Jan 8 '14
LOL, were you there that day?
GEOFF CRESAP SydThrift
Jan 8 '14
It was your namesake SID Fernandez on the mound that day.
van wilhoite LVW
Jan 8 '14
In 1988 I was at Shea and Raines, fresh off a long DL stint, destroyed the Mets with two long HR. I can't remember who was on the mound that day but I remember those two HR vividly and I always thought the Rock was worthy of the Hall. What's disturbing is that he lost votes, slipping from 52.2% to a hair over 46%. Meanwhile, some joker(s) saw fit to give 1 vote apiece to Jaque Jones, Armando Benetiz and Kenny Rogers. J.T. Snow, now there's a HOF if ever we saw one, garnered 2 votes, the same number Biggio fell short by. As for this Ken Gurnick moron, who voted for Jack Morris and Jack Morris only, he proves that this voting process is flawed and it's time to take it out of the hands of the BBWA who are evidently too busy supporting Pedophiles like Bill Conlin to get their heads out of their asses. At this point I say let these 'roid junkies in, there's no proof that many of them did steroids, only suspicion. Besides, it wasn't even against the rules until a few years ago. Even if Bonds did kind of admit he used wouldn't he still have been one of the all time greats even without steroids? How about Piazza and Bagwell, is there any proof either of these guys ever used? They both belong in there.
GEOFF CRESAP SydThrift
Jan 8 '14
This is a guy who I always expected would get into the hall.

That's not based on any analysis just my recollection of him being a great player. Perhaps he was a better fantasy player than real player?
Kent Ostby Seadogs
Jan 8 '14