Albert Pujols St. Louis Cardinals

Age: 42 (January 16, 1980) | aka Prince Albert,Phat Albert, The Machine, El Hombre | 6' 3" | 235lbs. | Bats: Right 1B-76 3B-1 DH-2
Tm Lg YEAR G AB R H BB SO 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BA OBP SLG BB% SO% BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
LAA AL 2018 117 465 50 114 28 65 20 0 19 64 1 0 .245 .289 .411 6 13 .247 40/22/37 13 12
LAA AL 2019 131 491 55 120 43 68 22 0 23 93 3 0 .244 .305 .430 8 12 .238 46/15/39 15 14
LAA AL 2020 39 152 15 34 9 25 8 0 6 25 0 0 .224 .270 .395 6 15 .230 40/20/41 9 9
LAA AL 2021 24 86 9 17 3 13 0 0 5 12 1 0 .198 .250 .372 3 14 .176 38/16/45 2 2
LAD NL 2021 85 189 20 48 11 32 3 0 12 38 1 0 .254 .299 .460 5 16 .245 50/16/35 9 8
STL NL 2022 101 287 34 76 25 50 13 0 21 58 1 2 .265 .338 .530 8 15 .248 38/16/45 16 14
Career 22yrs 3072 11401 1906 3377 1370 1399 685 16 700 2208 117 43 .296 .374 .543 11 11 .284 n/a
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There were 14 players in the majors last year who struck out more than Pujols swung and missed.

Thought that was a pretty cool (and extremely impressive) stat.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Mar 13 '10
What effect will his ailing back have on the market? He's always seemed to battle through his other injuries, but a back? Toppers are out there in our league. Purchaser gets him for 2 seasons then toppers. What would his injury Par Value be for another season guaranteed in 6 X 6 that uses plate appearances?

Also, 09 looks like career year in Rotisserie value. Every time I have bought the following year I've been burned. But Albert, oh Albert, you never been on my team!
James Morgan jem1776
Mar 9 '10
2010's Enzo Hernandez, where are you?
Thomas Rosenthal TommyR
Feb 24 '10
playing a worst team league? lol.

I'd guess Michael Bourn is near the top of the list.

140 K's, 600+ AB's, low RBI and HR totals.

Chris Davis and BJ Upton could be other top contenders, though both have the potential to do some good things.

Cust is not loved by this system.

If Emilio Bonifacio gets the ABs, Yahtzee!
Justin Dowling BGWoodsman
Feb 24 '10
Hitter Stats

* AB = +2
* H = -3
* R = -4
* HR = -6
* RBI = -4
* K = +2

so, who's the worst hitter based on the following stats (you want to finish with the highest positive score)?
It looks like speed guys toward the bottom of the lineup could be valuable. Any thoughts?
Thomas Rosenthal TommyR
Feb 24 '10
Fifteen. I've got 20 extra $1 hitters and pitchers, otherwise they add up exactly.

But that's much, much less important in mixed league pricing. All that you really care about is a hierarchy. I can see ponying up many more dollars than 57 to roster Albert Pujols in a 15-team mixed league.
Alex Patton Alex
Feb 20 '10
alex, how many teams for the mixed bids??
Justin Dowling BGWoodsman
Feb 20 '10
Just showed up here after not looking for a few days. Yay bids! I'm already getting offers for my $46, Opt Pujols in my 4x4, $260, NL-only, 14/9, 12-team league with regular 25% inflation. I made a run for the money last year, gutted my team for 2010, and finished third, 13 points ahead of 4th and 4.5 out of second. Bad call, but if I can get some prospects for Albert, he's gone. 2011 calls...
T.J. Rohr TJRohr
Feb 19 '10
We are talking about Albert Pujols, Mike -- of course you can find some more money for him!

The point of getting our preliminary bids up now is to get discussions rolling. What's significant here, I think, is that the 4x4 bid limit is lower than the 5x5 limit. For hitters I'm all but certain that's not right. The best hitters are worth more in 4x4 than in 5x5.

I'm not as certain as I used to be that the same is true about the best starting pitchers. The ones who strike a whole lot of batters out.
Alex Patton Alex
Feb 19 '10
Maybe we can attribute it to temporary insanity (and I may well increase prices for some of the cadillac players), but I think there is a point to be made.

I look at the prices as a total list; at the end of the day, the prices should add up. So, putting a $44 price on Albert means money has to come from someone else. Although I haven't been as active on the Roto Think Tank as I'd like to be (hi Mike!), I take seriously his observation that our lists from last year were a little below-market on the cadillac players. Consistently. So, I'm thinking that the list as a whole reacts to this observation by (essentially) saying that I won't get Albert or HanRam, but that I *will* get a bunch of the second-tier studs.

At least, that's my idea. I know that Alex, Peter and I have always tried to have our final bid lists add up. (The problem that doesn't involve Albert involves the $6 to $9 players, some of whom end up going for $14 and some of whom go for $2; I've never been able to figure out a good way to adjust for that auction reality in a list.) I think that the list as a whole will end up with a solid team with a chance to win. To reach that result, there are some players for whom the bid price surely won't be enough. Maybe I've gone overboard on Pujols and Ramirez (among others), and I'm more than willing to re-think the upper-echelon bids based on feedback here. Just wanted to explain my overall strategy.

Oh, and I wish I could say that it was due to my unfamiliarity with 4x4, but my 5x5 list was much the same.
mike fenger mike
Feb 18 '10