Max Scherzer New York Mets

Age: 37 (July 27, 1984) | 6' 3" | 208lbs. | Throws: Right Minors: p-33 ph-2
Tm Lg YEAR W L SV Hld G GS IP H HR BB SO ERA WHIP Rating BB/9 SO/9 BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
WAS NL 2017 16 6 0 0 31 31 200.1 126 22 55 268 2.52 0.90 0.93 2.5 12.0 .259 37/17/47 42 39
WAS NL 2018 18 7 0 0 33 33 220.1 150 23 51 300 2.53 0.91 0.95 2.1 12.3 .283 34/18/48 41 40
WAS NL 2019 11 7 0 0 27 27 172.0 144 18 33 243 2.93 1.03 1.09 1.7 12.7 .342 41/21/38 27 28
WAS NL 2020 5 4 0 0 12 12 67.0 70 10 23 92 3.76 1.39 1.44 3.1 12.4 .382 33/27/40 12 18
WAS NL 2021 8 4 0 0 19 19 111.0 71 18 28 147 2.76 0.89 1.01 2.3 11.9 .242 32/17/51 21 20
LAD NL 2021 7 0 0 0 11 11 68.0 48 5 8 89 1.99 0.82 0.88 1.1 11.8 .295 35/21/44 18 16
Career 14yrs 190 97 0 0 407 398 2533.0 2072 287 677 3020 3.16 1.09 1.12 2.4 10.7 .302 n/a
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Loses his no-hitter in the 8th on a dribbler and the game in the ninth on two unearned runs. The quintessential Tough Loss.

It seems like Max gets more than his share of those.

Alex Patton Alex
Jun 21 '17

A brilliant effort by Max tonight. He didn't even get mad when Michael Taylor ruined his shutout with a hideous error in center field that went as an RBI double for Posey. Cruised through the ninth on eleven pitches, all but three for strikes.

Alex Patton Alex
Jun 1 '17

A three finger grip provides more contact point friction with the ball.  It spins differently and releases slower.  I imagine that's good for the changeup, but not so good for the fastball and moving differently may not be better when you've got a lot of (useful) life on your two-seam fastball.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Mar 10 '17

Ed Whitson had his career year in San Diego  pitching with a bad finger which forced him to change his grip.....it made his changeup a lot better for whatever reason.

van wilhoite LVW
Mar 10 '17

I noticed that Scherzer's price was falling before I noticed that he's struggling to recover from a ring-finger stress fracture in his throwing hand that was thought not to be very important when camp started a month ago. Scherzer has been throwing batting practice and side sessions and is just now gearing up for game action, while using an adjusted grip that relieves the pain he feels when throwing.

He cost $32 in CBS and $28 in LABR, and today I would not pay that for him. We'll update his price in next week's update, I hope we'll know more then, but if you're drafting this weekend, given all that we don't know about his ability to pitch and his effectiveness if he doesn't pitch, I wouldn't pay more than $17 for him.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 9 '17

I found an explanation of perceived speed  at beyond the boxscore.

It's the velocity of the pitch adjusted to the league average release point. It goes on to say if two relievers throw 100 mph pitches the one who releases it closer to home will have a higher perceived velocity due to the batter having less time to react.

van wilhoite LVW
Dec 28 '16

Revisiting his Statcast stats as I shift from the top 20 homer hitters (I got through seven before deciding there was precious little enlightenment found in that exercise) to the top 20 strikeout pitchers.

Scherzer led the majors.

Average speed of his 1,963 four-seam fastballs: 95.10

The MLB average: 93.04

Average spin rate: 2541

The MLB average: 2241

Average exit velocity: 89.63

The MLB average: 90.13

So it seems that it's the spin rate that makes Max's fastball exceptional.

It's certainly not his average extension.

I confess I don't understand average perceived speed.

Peter? LVW? Eugene? Anyone?

Help us out, would you?

Walter may not be a big fan of Statcast averages, but I still am.

At least I think I am. I'm hopeful we learn something about pitchers.

Alex Patton Alex
Dec 27 '16
The darkest night in some 500 years, too. Go for it!
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Dec 22 '16
There's a nice difference between the average speed of Scherzer's four-seamer (95.1 mph) and the average exit velocity (89.8) but what really stands out in his Statcast averages at MLB is the spin rate: 2541 rpm, exactly 300 rpm faster than average.

The zone charts are also quite unusual. More pitches that were thrown for strikes came over the heart of the plate than anywhere else and when batters put these pitches in play they hit .231 (lower than they hit in five of the other eight quadrants). The average exit speed when batters connected on these supposedly bad pitches down the middle was 91.1 (lower than the exit speeds of four of the other quadrants).

I suspect that tells us something about how much movement Scherzer has on the ball, thanks to the spin rate.

And I could be just going down the rabbit hole of Statcast averages on the shortest day of the year, waiting for the days to get longer.
Alex Patton Alex
Dec 21 '16