Matt Wieters St. Louis Cardinals

Age: 34 (May 21, 1986) | 6' 5" | 235lbs. | Bats: Both C-18 PH-11
Tm Lg YEAR G AB R H BB SO 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BA OBP SLG BB% SO% BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
BAL AAA 2009 39 141 25 43 20 30 9 2 5 30 0 0 .305 .387 .504 12 18 .352 n/a
BAL AL 2009 96 354 35 102 28 86 15 1 9 43 0 0 .288 .340 .412 7 22 .356 n/a 10 9
BAL AL 2010 130 446 37 111 47 94 22 1 11 55 0 1 .249 .319 .377 9 19 .287 n/a 9 8
BAL AL 2011 139 500 72 131 48 84 28 0 22 68 1 0 .262 .328 .450 9 15 .276 43/18/39 17 16
BAL AL 2012 144 526 67 131 60 112 27 1 23 83 3 0 .249 .329 .435 10 19 .274 44/20/35 17 15
BAL AL 2013 148 523 59 123 43 104 29 0 22 79 2 0 .235 .287 .417 7 18 .247 39/18/44 15 13
BAL AL 2014 26 104 13 32 6 19 5 0 5 18 0 1 .308 .339 .500 5 17 .329 28/30/43 6 6
BAL AA 2015 3 11 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .182 .231 .182 8 0 .167 n/a
BAL AAA 2015 2 5 2 3 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 .600 .667 1.20 17 0 .500 n/a
BAL AL 2015 75 258 24 69 21 67 14 1 8 25 0 0 .267 .319 .422 7 24 .328 43/25/32 6 6
BAL AL 2016 124 423 48 103 32 85 17 1 17 66 1 0 .243 .302 .409 7 18 .265 36/24/40 11 11
WAS NL 2017 123 422 43 95 38 94 20 0 10 52 1 0 .225 .288 .344 8 20 .264 42/21/36 4 5
WAS A+ 2018 1 4 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .250 .250 0 25 .333 n/a
WAS AA 2018 2 6 0 1 1 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 .167 .286 .333 14 29 .250 n/a
WAS NL 2018 76 235 24 56 30 45 8 0 8 30 0 1 .238 .330 .374 11 17 .261 34/21/45 5 5
STL NL 2019 67 168 15 36 12 47 4 0 11 27 1 1 .214 .268 .435 7 26 .223 38/21/41 4 3
STL NL 2020 19 35 3 7 3 10 1 0 0 4 0 0 .200 .300 .229 7 26 .280 40/32/28 -1 -0
Career 12yrs 1167 3994 440 996 368 847 190 5 146 550 9 4 .249 .313 .409 8 19 .279 n/a
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So I was talking to Toz today about catchers and their value. I see all the love for Wieters, Santana, Napoli, Mauer and Avila with the bids in the software. But my question is - how many AL catchers in the past 5 years have earned $20 in 5x5?

Again, I do not know the answer, or have the data handy, so I am asking if someone can share. I am just trying to see if my valuation of catchers is way off base.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Mar 16 '12
2-for-17 so far in spring training. With one good game, that changes, of course, but you have to look long and hard for anyone who's hot on the Orioles.
Alex Patton Alex
Mar 16 '12
I remember that PECOTA projection well. Lordy. You'd think it was ZIPS in 2011 and it was Brett Lawrie.

OH, BASEBALL NERD SNAP!
Mike Gianella MikeG
Mar 13 '12
It's funny that Pecota is not a fan (I'll take your word for it) because in 2009, Pecota expected Wieters to be Johnny Bench right out of the box. You could look it up: tinyurl.com/dkjshy

It's amazing that Wieters batted eighth for most of April last year. When did these guys become the 1927 Yankees? Uncle Buck, you're killing us. Wieters was in the fifth slot for most of the second half.
scott pianowski ballfour
Mar 13 '12
It feels like Wieters is a post-hype-re-hype player this season. We waited so long, and now that he showed something, people are jumping in with both feet to land him.

Also, I'm pretty sure he's one of the players that BP and HQ differ on the most. Because PECOTA is not a fan.

I don't feel like the top of the catching pool is as far from the middle this year as it normally is. So I'm just planning on targeting a cheap solid option, unless the bidding stops at $19 for Napoli.

gary clark garyclark
Feb 29 '12
Given the number of O's fans in our league, it could happen -- but that price is insane. Even if he's the the last hitting catcher on the board, when the other guy says "$25", relax, and get ready to take a buck guy, and put the extra $24 elsewhere. $26? Really?
Mike Dean TMU2009
Feb 26 '12
Stage 2 is a good way to describe that room, Eugene.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 25 '12
Wieters won't DH on his days off, but he will play 5 days a week - 130 games from a catcher is about all you can ask for. That said, he should be worth no more than $18 in 5x5 by any reasonable measure. Giving him more than a little room for growth might make him $20. But, $26 is so far from reality, it's Stage 2.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 25 '12
Curious that Wieters and Santana went for a good deal more than Napoli ($21). At least Santana will play every day and hit in the middle of the lineup. Wieters will not play every day.
Gene McCaffrey GeneM
Feb 25 '12
Wieters and Santana are outrageous and can never earn that much. Mauer is a safe gamble at that price. Suzuki as well. What about Napoli? Martin seems about right. Perez a little light. I think I saw you had Pierzynski for a fair discount as well.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 25 '12