Matt Wieters St. Louis Cardinals

Age: 34 (May 21, 1986) | 6' 5" | 235lbs. | Bats: Both C-18 PH-11
Tm Lg YEAR G AB R H BB SO 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BA OBP SLG BB% SO% BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
BAL AAA 2009 39 141 25 43 20 30 9 2 5 30 0 0 .305 .387 .504 12 18 .352 n/a
BAL AL 2009 96 354 35 102 28 86 15 1 9 43 0 0 .288 .340 .412 7 22 .356 n/a 10 9
BAL AL 2010 130 446 37 111 47 94 22 1 11 55 0 1 .249 .319 .377 9 19 .287 n/a 9 8
BAL AL 2011 139 500 72 131 48 84 28 0 22 68 1 0 .262 .328 .450 9 15 .276 43/18/39 17 16
BAL AL 2012 144 526 67 131 60 112 27 1 23 83 3 0 .249 .329 .435 10 19 .274 44/20/35 17 15
BAL AL 2013 148 523 59 123 43 104 29 0 22 79 2 0 .235 .287 .417 7 18 .247 39/18/44 15 13
BAL AL 2014 26 104 13 32 6 19 5 0 5 18 0 1 .308 .339 .500 5 17 .329 28/30/43 6 6
BAL AA 2015 3 11 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .182 .231 .182 8 0 .167 n/a
BAL AAA 2015 2 5 2 3 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 .600 .667 1.20 17 0 .500 n/a
BAL AL 2015 75 258 24 69 21 67 14 1 8 25 0 0 .267 .319 .422 7 24 .328 43/25/32 6 6
BAL AL 2016 124 423 48 103 32 85 17 1 17 66 1 0 .243 .302 .409 7 18 .265 36/24/40 11 11
WAS NL 2017 123 422 43 95 38 94 20 0 10 52 1 0 .225 .288 .344 8 20 .264 42/21/36 4 5
WAS A+ 2018 1 4 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .250 .250 0 25 .333 n/a
WAS AA 2018 2 6 0 1 1 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 .167 .286 .333 14 29 .250 n/a
WAS NL 2018 76 235 24 56 30 45 8 0 8 30 0 1 .238 .330 .374 11 17 .261 34/21/45 5 5
STL NL 2019 67 168 15 36 12 47 4 0 11 27 1 1 .214 .268 .435 7 26 .223 38/21/41 4 3
STL NL 2020 19 35 3 7 3 10 1 0 0 4 0 0 .200 .300 .229 7 26 .280 40/32/28 -1 -0
Career 12yrs 1167 3994 440 996 368 847 190 5 146 550 9 4 .249 .313 .409 8 19 .279 n/a
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The 20-year-old Plain Wheeler Dealer league decided some years ago to allow owners to keep a player who is traded into the National League. To compensate, all players who come into the American League during the season are ineligible to play this year. That maintains the integrity of the player pool, 12 rotisserie teams competing with the players from 14 AL teams. It's fair, and I don't miss the in-season scrum that Rotoman seems to cherish.
David Molyneaux NeauxBrainr
Feb 15 '11
The notion that giving a guy who's lost a $30 player $30 in FAAB cash amounts some kind of serious compensations strikes me as kind of silly, unless the position is, "It's better than nothing."

Having had a compensation scheme, and now doing the "you keep the stats" thing, it's just easier -- and, I think, fairer -- to let the owner keep the stats.

As for the purity idea, I presume that if an NL minor leaguer was traded to an AL team in season, and subsequently promoted to the majors, you'd FAAB him. How about guys who aren't signed on Opening Day?
Mike Dean TMU2009
Feb 15 '11
I've never understood the idea of compensation for having a guy traded out of the league, when you could just have his stats count in the other league. It's not perfect, but it's better than anything else.

In American Dream League you lose a guy who is traded. Teams have complained about their bitter bad luck and I've said, brightly, there is a solution! But the majority (and in this case I'm with them, as are many of the complainers) likes the way random hits stir things up (and reward you if you play the trade market right). It certainly does add a lot of tension to the ML trading deadline!

It's not a fairer game, and I don't think it rewards better players (at least not much), but it is fair, if that's the way you all want to play.

Just as long as there's no compensation.
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Feb 14 '11
I've been trying to think of the best way to say what Gene just did in his last two sentences. Okay, put me down for that.

Your star player gets traded from Texas to Boston, in-season (so you're fine). My star player gets traded from Oakland to St. Louis, in-season (so I'm screwed). Why should I be heavily penalized for this again? What skill does this measure?
scott pianowski ballfour
Feb 14 '11
But no league is "NL only." There is interleague play and I'm sure you count those stats. And hey, if the guy gets traded to the AL can you keep his interleague stats? Why not? The games we play are supposed to be about baseball knowledge, and game strategy, and tactics. Who gets traded has nothing to do with these things.
Gene McCaffrey GeneM
Feb 14 '11
We do the same as Eugene's league: We add the traded player's salary to the owner's FAAB budget. It's the only thing we've found that works. We'd tried allowing the owner to choose one of the players traded into our league; that was always imbalanced one way or the other. We've never considered allowing the owner to keep the player's stats; we're NL-only and we're gonna stay that way.
T.J. Rohr TJRohr
Feb 13 '11
We provide the FAAB dollars equal to auction price for all auction players traded to the NL. We provide FAAB dollars for any previously FAABed player equal to their FAAB expense (which is their salary except for players under $5, who have a $5 salary).

Every year we vote on whether to keep NL stats and every year it goes down by 7-5 or 8-4 depending on the one guy who changes his vote year to year. The same 4 people propose it every single season. It goes down because we are an AL only league. Those who want to change the rule argue that it will eliminate some of the luck in the draft. Injuries we can't control, but we can control our pool of players. MikeG's point is well taken. Control the players out, but also control the players in.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 13 '11
We used to have a rule that provided for compensation for players traded out of league during the season. It was unbearably complicated; it didn't work.

Now, if a guy gets traded out the league during the season, you keep his stats after he's traded, but you can't trade HIM, and you can't keep him.

I totally agree with MikeG's point that allowing this, and allowing the incoming players to be FAAB'd, affects the karmic balance of Roto adversely, or lets too many deer swim on to the island, or whatever. But I have to run a league, and it works for us.
Mike Dean TMU2009
Feb 13 '11
I don't have a problem with keeping players traded out of the league...as long as you prohibit players traded into the league from being picked up.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 13 '11
I prefer the losing a player due to trade rule in an AL or NL-only. You need to price for it and its somewhat predictable. If you take that away, there are two inherent problems. One, it would be like saying you get an injured players' projected stats - injuries are no less unfair and are just as fluky. Two, you are playing mixed league.
John Toczydlowski Toz
Feb 13 '11