Matt Wieters St. Louis Cardinals

Age: 34 (May 21, 1986) | 6' 5" | 235lbs. | Bats: Both C-18 PH-11
Tm Lg YEAR G AB R H BB SO 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BA OBP SLG BB% SO% BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
BAL AAA 2009 39 141 25 43 20 30 9 2 5 30 0 0 .305 .387 .504 12 18 .352 n/a
BAL AL 2009 96 354 35 102 28 86 15 1 9 43 0 0 .288 .340 .412 7 22 .356 n/a 10 9
BAL AL 2010 130 446 37 111 47 94 22 1 11 55 0 1 .249 .319 .377 9 19 .287 n/a 9 8
BAL AL 2011 139 500 72 131 48 84 28 0 22 68 1 0 .262 .328 .450 9 15 .276 43/18/39 17 16
BAL AL 2012 144 526 67 131 60 112 27 1 23 83 3 0 .249 .329 .435 10 19 .274 44/20/35 17 15
BAL AL 2013 148 523 59 123 43 104 29 0 22 79 2 0 .235 .287 .417 7 18 .247 39/18/44 15 13
BAL AL 2014 26 104 13 32 6 19 5 0 5 18 0 1 .308 .339 .500 5 17 .329 28/30/43 6 6
BAL AA 2015 3 11 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .182 .231 .182 8 0 .167 n/a
BAL AAA 2015 2 5 2 3 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 .600 .667 1.20 17 0 .500 n/a
BAL AL 2015 75 258 24 69 21 67 14 1 8 25 0 0 .267 .319 .422 7 24 .328 43/25/32 6 6
BAL AL 2016 124 423 48 103 32 85 17 1 17 66 1 0 .243 .302 .409 7 18 .265 36/24/40 11 11
WAS NL 2017 123 422 43 95 38 94 20 0 10 52 1 0 .225 .288 .344 8 20 .264 42/21/36 4 5
WAS A+ 2018 1 4 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250 .250 .250 0 25 .333 n/a
WAS AA 2018 2 6 0 1 1 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 .167 .286 .333 14 29 .250 n/a
WAS NL 2018 76 235 24 56 30 45 8 0 8 30 0 1 .238 .330 .374 11 17 .261 34/21/45 5 5
STL NL 2019 67 168 15 36 12 47 4 0 11 27 1 1 .214 .268 .435 7 26 .223 38/21/41 4 3
STL NL 2020 19 35 3 7 3 10 1 0 0 4 0 0 .200 .300 .229 7 26 .280 40/32/28 -1 -0
Career 12yrs 1167 3994 440 996 368 847 190 5 146 550 9 4 .249 .313 .409 8 19 .279 n/a
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He could be on to something. Bill Sandillo (a hitting coach out here - is it too early to draft Ethan Springston>) had me stand up straighter on the tee, and boom! 30 extra yards down the fairway.
Noah Hirsch NSH
Apr 20 '11
Apparently all he had to do was stand up straighter. In the past week he's crushing the ball and all due to a minor adjustment to his stance. Let's hope this is for real and not just sample size. It's fun to watch the O's right now even when they lose.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Apr 20 '11
I would make the deal. Barton is a good keep at $6, but with modest upside. I'm not overselling Wieters to say that he could get special in a hurry. Probably won't, but there is the chance. Plus, he's a catcher at a fair price. That's better than getting sucked into the scarcity vortex.

Brantley could work out badly for you, but as gravy right now he's very thin.
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 14 '11
Wieters question of the day. We only get to keep 5. Good for inflation, bad for teams with more than 5 worthy keepers.

AL 12 team 5x5. My keepers are Mauer $19 final year (fy), Longoria $15 fy, Romero $6, Hughes $6 fy, and Daric Barton $6. I was offered Wieters $10 for Barton and Michael Brantley $4. Based upon bid prices Wieters and Barton are near equals and considering price, Barton is the better value. Brantley would be giving someone gravy. But, I like Wieters a lot and he's got much more upside than Barton.

Carlos Santana will likely be the only other catcher kept. At firstbase it will likely only be Smoak.

Anyone got any suggestions?
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Mar 14 '11
I think I said this here earlier in the year, but it bears repeating. Wieters is only a disappointment versus the outrageous expectations heaped on his broad shoulders. So, he's no Buster Posey. Big whoop.

He walked a little more last year, he struck out a little less. He's young and learning to handle big league pitchers. His focus isn't just on hitting. In fact, probably very little of his most important focus was on hitting last year. That isn't the priority with young catchers, generally.

So while he didn't hit the ball as hard or as cleanly last year as in Year 1, I think it's fair to chalk that up to youth and look for better things going forward. None of that is a guarantee that he's going to live up to all that early promise, some guys don't, but we haven't seen a good reason yet to think Wieters won't put it together.
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 13 '11
Well, that projection is what I'm hoping I bought. If I get 2010, well, I overspent by a few dollars (14 team 1 catcher league, that season is replacement level).

I figure the potential reward is worth the outlay, but I wondered if the interest here is based on anything we've seen in the majors, as opposed to his minor league production. Most of what I've read has been pure post-hype speculation.
Justin Dowling BGWoodsman
Mar 13 '11
This is why they call it post hype. And if he only earns $10 again this year, it will be very post hype in 2012. If I get BGWoodsman's projection this year I'm very happy, because there's hope for something much better at some point.
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 13 '11
Is all relative no? Only something like 8 C in ML managed double figure HR and 50+ RBI in 2010, Wieters being one of them. These prices seem about right for a good but not great scarce pos regular.
Noah Hirsch NSH
Mar 13 '11
Leaving aside pricing for a moment, do we have any reason to expect statistical growth, besides age? All his rate stats fell, and you wonder if he's headed for Alex Gordon-land.

His numbers last year are highly mediocre, and I bought him in my 14-team mixed league auction almost by accident, somewhere in between price-enforcing and tentatively hoping the bidding stopped.

But, what am I hoping to get here? Realistically? I'm thinking 15-16 HR, 65-70 RBI and 50 runs, with a .280 BA, at which point he does not seem all that valuable. Am I underrating his power, and on-base skills?
Justin Dowling BGWoodsman
Mar 13 '11
I'm all for the scrum in the ADL (very exciting to get Dan Haren last year while a team with a dollar more FAAB elected to wait for Adam Dunn) and all for the impurity of keeping the stats of players traded to the NL, because losing a player like Cliff Lee is a little too exciting. When it comes to a vote next year, for the umpteenth time, I'll try to frame the argument the way Gene does here, but it will do no good.
Alex Patton Alex
Feb 16 '11