Marcell Ozuna St. Louis Cardinals

Age: 29 (November 12, 1990) | 6' 1" | 225lbs. OF-129 LF-129 PH-1
MIA AAA 2015 33 120 21 38 11 23 12 1 5 11 1 0 .317 .379 .558 8 17 .359 n/a
MIA NL 2015 123 459 47 119 30 110 27 0 10 44 2 3 .259 .308 .383 6 22 .320 48/21/31 10 11
MIA NL 2016 148 557 75 148 43 115 23 6 23 76 0 3 .266 .321 .452 7 19 .296 44/20/37 17 18
MIA NL 2017 159 613 93 191 64 144 30 2 37 124 1 3 .312 .376 .548 9 21 .355 47/19/34 35 32
STL NL 2018 148 582 69 163 38 110 16 2 23 88 3 0 .280 .325 .433 6 18 .309 47/18/35 24 23
STL AAA 2019 3 9 3 4 2 0 1 0 1 6 0 0 .444 .583 .889 17 0 .375 n/a
STL NL 2019 130 485 80 118 62 114 23 1 29 89 12 2 .243 .330 .474 11 21 .259 41/23/35 22 20
Career 7yrs 931 3536 467 964 291 814 162 20 148 538 26 13 .273 .329 .455 8 21 .315 n/a
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Phil Ponebshek Texpope
Jan 24

Manfred created a tradeable piece by adding a 26th player to the major league roster.

He can make it's permanence a part of the agreement. I also expect the NL to get the DH in the next agreement. DH's in general make a good bit more than the 13th hitter or pitcher on a team and generally go to older (read slower) players who can still hit.

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Jan 24

Having worked in both the rail and mining industries, I'll say that Alex is correct as to the long-term cause, Eugene as to the more recent drop in jobs.  In the go-go first decade of the 2000's it was as if the industry knew its day was ending so it hauled as much out of the ground as it could while there was still a market.

John Thomas Roll2
Jan 24

Every time I read a claim that a major league baseball team isn't making money, I'm reminded of the old joke:

"COMPANY OWNER TO CFO:  How much money did we make last year?"

"CFO TO COMPANY OWNER:  How much do you want to make?"


Mike Dean TMU2009
Jan 24

Automation hasn't been what has replaced coal miners.  Coal itself has been replaced with both less expensive energy sources and those more favored by the government.

I'll avoid the discussion of controllers as representing them is my job.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Jan 24

Coal miners have already been replaced by robots. Traffic controllers will be soon. So will umpires.

Ozuna could be replaced, but who would pay to watch that game?

I hope, in the next CBA, the players get rid of compensation baggage completely and cut free agency down to four years. It's going to be a nasty fight, and I'm not happy about that, but the fans are paying to watch the players play, ergo the players should get more of the loot. Right now, without being allowed to see the owners' books, I have no doubt that revenues are going up faster than salaries.

Alex Patton Alex
Jan 23

In the free market, there's a problem for players.

There are only 750 active roster spots in MLB.  Throw in maybe another 150 guys on IL makes it 900.

So any team that decided to spend money on Marcel Ozuna was deciding not only to forfeit a draft pick ... but also to surrender a roster spot that could be used for a much cheaper but potentially not THAT much worse guy like Kevin Pillar (Ozuna's 2-year WAR - 5.4 - Pillar's is 3.5).  Yeah - we've seen Ozuna's upside (4.5 WAR is 2014, 5.0 in 2016) but for 2015/16/18/19 his average WAR was 2.3.

If you think there's a really good chance of a 3.5 WAR out of Ozuna, $18 mil is a decent price.  If you think you're more likely to get a 2.3 ... 

I was actually kind of surprised the Braves inked Ozuna - but not surprised they weren't willing to go more than one year, with Pache and Waters getting really close.   In the off-season the Braves gave Markakis and Duvall some money to stick around, and Inciarte's signed through 2021.  Plus that Acuna guy.  

Phil Ponebshek Texpope
Jan 23

The Players Association hurt themselves by not realizing what the cost of direct compensation would lead to. I don't know how they walk that back, since every conversation will start with, as Eugene said, You agreed to this.

On the other hand, I'm reading stories about the Indians not making money. Could that be true? I'm not expert on this, but it seems unbelievable. But if it is even sort of true, the next contract negotiation is going to be hellish for all of us. Less so for the players.

They aren't coal miners. Or air traffic controllers. But in comparison to the owners they're paid like them.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Jan 23

Collective bargaining is always about priorities and using power (economic and otherwise) to achieve the best deal that doesn't overburden the other party. It's not like a contract to buy widgets, because you can buy the same widgets from another manufacturer next time, so you have to seek the best possible deal in each transaction. In collective bargaining, you're in a marriage not a series of short-term relationships.  The cliche is that it's labor relations because you are in a relationship.  The fact is, if one side believes a deal is unfair, they live with it for the term of the agreement, and then they use all of their power to change it in the next negotiations.  The QO system appears to be something that the PA will use its power to change.  But, they may have other competition priorities.  Additionally, it's always important to remember that both sides agreed to the current system.  It wasn't imposed.  The PA has to take responsibility for its own poor prediction of how the agreement would affect its members.  It can't merely blame management, although most unions would, because red-meat for the members is sometimes a galvanizing force in developing solidarity. There are usually plenty of issues to blame on management and there's no need to blame management for what the union voluntarily agreed to.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Jan 23

I certainly agree the Braves don't mind, but I believe that the players VERY MUCH mind.  I suspect that eliminating the QO draft pick compensation sytem will be at the top of their wish list in the next CBA.  Guys like Grandal, Keuchel, and Ozuna have great arguments.

As a fan I want some kind of compensation when a top free agent chooses to leave, especially for small market teams.  But I wish there were a way to incentivize staying instead of punishing leaving, like in the NBA with max contracts for player retention.

Eugene, I believe you are the collective bargaining expert.  Is there a fair way to always offer the existing team the right to beat any other offer? If so, how can that be squared with the players right to choose his team?  In leagues with restricted free agents, the players hate that too.  Heck, the most hated NFL contract now seems to be the franchise contract, due to injury potential and one -year duration.

Maybe the only way to do it is to offer the existing team draft pick compensation, but not subtract that pick from the other just create a new pick like the competitive balance picks?

Bob Elam Bob-in-TX
Jan 22