Manny Ramirez Boston Red Sox

Age: 47 (May 30, 1972) | aka Man-Ram, Manny being Manny | 6' 0" | 225lbs. | Bats: Right Minors: of-4 lf-4 dh-14 ph-6
Tm Lg YEAR G AB R H BB SO 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BA OBP SLG BB% SO% BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
CLE AL 1993 22 53 5 9 2 8 1 0 2 5 0 0 .170 .200 .302 4 15 .163 n/a
CLE AL 1994 91 290 51 78 42 72 22 0 17 60 4 2 .269 .357 .521 13 21 .298 n/a
CLE AL 1995 137 484 85 149 75 112 26 1 31 107 6 6 .308 .402 .558 13 20 .341 n/a
CLE AL 1996 152 550 94 170 85 104 45 3 33 112 8 5 .309 .399 .582 13 16 .325 n/a
CLE AL 1997 150 561 99 184 79 115 40 0 26 88 2 3 .328 .415 .538 12 18 .373 n/a
CLE AL 1998 150 571 108 168 76 121 35 2 45 145 5 3 .294 .377 .599 11 18 .296 n/a
CLE AL 1999 147 522 131 174 96 131 34 3 44 165 2 4 .333 .442 .663 15 20 .365 n/a
CLE AL 2000 118 439 92 154 86 117 34 2 38 122 1 1 .351 .457 .697 16 22 .403 n/a
BOS AL 2001 142 529 93 162 81 147 33 2 41 125 0 1 .306 .405 .609 13 24 .353 n/a
BOS AL 2002 120 436 84 152 73 85 31 0 33 107 0 0 .349 .450 .647 14 16 .373 n/a 34
BOS AL 2003 154 569 117 185 97 94 36 1 37 104 3 1 .325 .427 .587 14 14 .334 n/a 35
BOS AL 2004 152 568 108 175 82 124 44 0 43 130 2 4 .308 .397 .613 12 19 .324 n/a 34
BOS AL 2005 152 554 112 162 80 119 30 1 45 144 1 0 .292 .388 .594 12 18 .295 n/a 35
BOS AL 2006 130 449 79 144 100 102 27 1 35 102 0 1 .321 .439 .619 18 18 .341 n/a 28
BOS AL 2007 133 483 84 143 71 92 33 1 20 88 0 0 .296 .388 .493 12 16 .325 n/a 20 19
BOS AL 2008 100 365 66 109 52 86 22 1 20 68 1 0 .299 .398 .529 12 20 .344 n/a 18 17
LAN NL 2008 53 187 36 74 35 38 14 0 17 53 2 0 .396 .489 .743 15 17 .419 n/a 21 18
LAN NL 2009 104 352 62 102 71 81 24 2 19 63 0 1 .290 .418 .531 16 19 .328 n/a 17 16
LAN A+ 2010 8 19 1 2 3 11 0 0 0 1 0 0 .105 .227 .105 14 50 .250 n/a
LAN/CHA AL 2010 90 265 38 79 46 61 16 0 9 42 1 1 .298 .409 .460 14 19 .354 n/a 12 11
TAM AL 2011 5 17 0 1 0 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 .059 .059 .059 0 24 .077 46/8/46 -1 -1
OAK AAA 2012 17 63 8 19 5 17 3 0 0 14 0 0 .302 .353 .349 7 25 .413 n/a
TEX AAA 2013 30 108 7 28 10 14 3 0 3 13 0 0 .259 .328 .370 8 12 .275 n/a
CHC AAA 2014 24 72 6 16 5 27 2 0 3 10 0 0 .222 .273 .375 6 35 .310 n/a
Career 19yrs 2302 8244 1544 2574 1329 1813 547 20 555 1831 38 33 .312 .411 .585 14 19 .338 n/a
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Going overseas to play in Japan.

van wilhoite LVW
Jan 9 '17

It's not just the Dreaded Drook (to Peter and me in the XFL), David Adler at MLB and Jay Jaffe at SI lean heavily on the crutch of WAR to prop up their HOF opinions.

Since players get propped up differently depending on which crutch you use, that seems weird.

Where BP made its mistake, IMO, was in calling its crutch WARP.

Alex Patton Alex
Jan 3 '17

I think Win Shares lost because James kept it proprietary. The only place to find WS was on the Bill James site, during the year (as far as I know). Meanwhile Baseball Reference and FanGraphs rolled out their competing WARs, updated daily, for free. They won.

Baseball Prospectus has their own version, but that too suffers from exclusivity.

Information wants to be free. Standards have to be available to everyone, or else people don't get behind them.

It occurs to me that I give money to BR and FG every year voluntarily. Except for Play Index I don't get more from them for giving, but I do feel like I owe them.

            

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Jan 3 '17

Sutter's biggest selling point to me is his ERA+ which is 136, well above his contemporaries including Fingers and Gossage - although they both threw a lot more innings than Sutter and had a lot more innings than games.  Saves are manager dependent as much as anything else, especially in his day, when he was really the first one inning saver.  I agree that Sutter was a lot better than Lee Smith.  I see Wagner as similar to Sutter - great component stats, very short (by innings and games) career compared to his contemporaries - Rivera and Hoffman.  Hoffman looks close this year, but I think he will fall short again and get in next year.  

K-Rod will be the most interesting for me.  Great component stats, high saves total, and single season leaderships.  Hoffman lead the league in saves only twice and never led in games finished.  Career totals of 1035 games,  1089.3 IP, 141 ERA+. K-Rod thrice has led his league in saves and thrice in GF, and once in Games pitched, which is very rare among elite closers.  Also the single season saves record.  He's got 902 games, 950.67 IP, and a 154 ERA+.  Two-three more years and he should be ahead of Hoffman in everything except saves itself.  That will be the true test of the writers, when they have to decide between the superior pitcher with a better peak and better career stats, but fewer saves when Hoffman is in on his third ballot.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Jan 1 '17

Sutter and Smith. Both started their careers with the Cubs. Both had all their 40+ save seasons wearing the Redbirds uniform. Sutter won a Cy Young and finished 3rd 3rd 5th and 6th four other times; Smith never won one and finished 2nd 4th 5th and 9th four other times. Sutter led the league in saves 5 times(28-34 record), all from 79-84(12 year career); Smith 4 times(15-26 record) including back to back in 91 and 92(18 year career). Sutter had 5 top 10 MVP finishes; Smith had one. Sutter had a much better W/L record: 68-71 vs 71-93 for Smith. Ironically both led their league in saves during a strike shortened season- Sutter 81; Smith 94.

IMO Sutter's case is a lot stronger than Smith's

van wilhoite LVW
Jan 1 '17

I thought in each case he was being very fair, albeit briefly. For instance, 

> Lee Smith, NO – Just not convinced he was a “difference maker”
during his career in the same way as Dennis Eckersley, Trevor Hoffman
& Mariano Rivera. There could be an argument made, however, that if
Bruce Sutter belongs, so does he.

Fair doesn't mean the choices -- as all the PED culprits, proven or not, come onto the ballot -- aren't ultimately subjective.

Alex Patton Alex
Jan 1 '17

Interesting piece on Win Shares.  The answer to your questions can be reduced down to one word: accessibility.

WRT to his HOF choices, they are as subjective as any others (perhaps more ridiculously so because of the scant analysis), without the written skill of Jay Jaffe or especially the great Joe Posnanski.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Jan 1 '17

Why has WAR caught on when Win Shares did not?

Don Drooker leans heavily on the former in his mock HOF ballot.

https://rotisserieduck.com

Alex Patton Alex
Dec 31 '16