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Questions about what's going on here.

Welcome! You are invited to wander around and read all of the comments that have been posted here at Patton & Co., but as soon as you register you can see the bid limits that Alex, Peter and Mike propose for each player, and you can post your own comments. Registering is free, so please join us!

"The Subscription Package" implies to me that I should wait until Friday-ish before I can subscribe for 2018 ... am I reading that right?

Howard Lynch LynchMob
Feb 14 '18

That's exciting.  I've got the other three entered, among 17 total lists, but I don't have the Rotowire top 400.  Right now, I've got 124 AL prospects on my list and that's without John Sickels's list, which always comes out last and is usually the deepest, albeit not 400 deep (more like 125-175 combined NL and AL).  Thing is, I weight the different lists, so without prior years of Rotowire for comparison, I won't be able to give it equal weight to the other big ones, including those you have and Keith Law.  Fangraphs, ZiPS, and KOTAH go a notch down, followed by even more obscure lists.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 13 '18

Great!  I use the software to model teams pre-auction, and I use the spreadsheets (with my modifications, of course) in the auction.  

Mike Dean TMU2009
Feb 13 '18

Yes. And we will be much further along than we normally are with the first version. PK5, MF5 and AP4 bids. Batting orders, benches and pitching rotations for all 30 teams. And the more prospects by far than ever before..

Stealing a trick from you, Eugene, we have four different prospect rankings: Baseball America top 100, Minor League Analyst top 100, Baseball Prospectus top 101 and, and... the Rotowire top 400.

Anyone who goes with us this year -- be it AL or NL via auction, mixed league via snake draft, one-and-done or dynasty -- is going to win bigly!

Alex Patton Alex
Feb 13 '18

That's great.  I've been wondering about the timeline.  There's already some activity in one of my leagues, so I wanted to get to pricing.  Can I assume that the Patton $ Online includes the software and the excel file, plus anything else you normally post?

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 13 '18

Tomorrow all current subscriptions expire.

That's the bad news.

Tomorrow (or the next day) we post Patton $ Online 2018 in the subscriber area.

That's the good news!

Alex Patton Alex
Feb 13 '18

Peter, I get it. Just checking, I haven’t checked in in a few years and was wondering where you were at. I ran WINE a few years back but have now fully transitioned from my desktop to a tablet. So I will go with the old standby of using a spreadsheet. Will there be a spreadsheet only option available?

GEOFF CRESAP SydThrift
Jan 13 '18

As a Mac user for the past 7 years, I used to run it on WINE, but it was glitchy and would crash sometimes, losing my data changes.  Last year I moved to the spreadsheet and found it significantly easier to adjust and easier to save.  Even if the software were available, I would use the spreadsheet this year.  The only lost functionality was that I couldn't just adjust AB and IP and have them prorate all other stats.

Another glitch in the software was how it ranked and priced players when I would switch from my Avg league to my OBP league.  Obviously, in excel, that's a seamless process.  Just count one column and not the other (after making sure the formula is calculated correctly).

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Jan 13 '18

The software is PC only. It runs on all Windows machines. It runs on my old Windows 98 laptop. But it needs Windows.

We tried to meld it into this website, and we also tried to create a Java app that you could launch here, but the job was too big. We're not programmers. Programmers cost money. The math said that investing a lot of money in a modern product wasn't going to pay off. We love baseball. We're not keen on losing money. Decision made.

So, we decided to support our current customers with the software they know. And we've beefed up the Excel spreadsheet so that it has the pricing formula built in, so if you change the projection you get updated prices. And many use the text files, which we keep up to date.

If you have any ideas about how we can better present the data (and what data we present) we'd like to hear them. We want to serve you in the best way we can, if we can.

The software will run on Windows on a Mac in Boot Camp and Fusion and Parallels. What broke last year and we haven't been able to fix, is running the software in WINE. I'll try again, but look here for an instructional on how to run the software on a Windows machine (you have to have one, even a really old one) and then use Remote Access software to run it on your iPad or phone or Mac computer. 

That's what I do.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Jan 13 '18

Hey Peter and Alex, what is the state of the draft software these days? Is it still running on PC only or is there an app or Mac version available? It’s been a while but I thought perhaps you were working on an app or Java version back in the day...

GEOFF CRESAP SydThrift
Jan 13 '18