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Colin Summers Colin (Flying Blog)
Mar 31 '18

Steve is the reason we get our stat feed from Baseball Info Solutions.

I didn't know him nearly as well as Peter did, but the few long conversations I had with Steve stay in my head. He was a one of a kind.

Alex Patton Alex
Mar 9 '18

Sorry for your loss, Peter. 

Sounds like Steve would have been a good guy to know.

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Mar 9 '18

Not to drag you too far into the annals of mortality, but informationally this is a little important.

My friend Steve Moyer died last week. He was a good guy, but he also did some notable things that might be overlooked.

He and I created the Fantasy Baseball Guide together. He worked at Rotowire in 2001, when they were Guide partners. 

He didn't invent Picks and Pans, that was me, but he encouraged me to get wide industry participation. Good idea. And I think it was his idea to sort the sections by name, alphabetically, rather than position.

All the so-called industry involvement over the years is because Steve encouraged me not to be a wallflower, but to talk to everyone else and become friends. That was a great gift to me. Hello Arizona Fall League!

Steve named Rock Remnants, which is mostly why an informal irregular conversation among friends on email about rock 'n' roll became a public thing. 

He invented Baseball Info Solutions. He pitched John Dewan and Bill James, who had previously invented the public source box score, with creating a higher level analytics from public sourcing. Dewan and James bought in and we have a source of pitch-level data from an alternate source other than MLBAM, and have had for a good many years now. That's important. If you're not a baseball fan, you have no reason to care, but if you do, Steve is King. He was that important.

Steve also invented the Bill James Handbook, which took the Baseball Register franchise and turned BIS info into a much better and more useful and informative baseball information must, available by November 1. Like clockwork. Those BIS guys who put it together were hauling, all month long, but they (and Steve) knew how important that deadline was.

He was a name not often in the news, but Steve Moyer dented a lot of lives. That's a really good thing. He'll be buried on Saturday.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 9 '18

It's that time of the year when we welcome back "The Closer Monkey".

"Feb 26: AL East, AL Central, and AL West previews.

Feb 28: NL East, NL Central, and NL West previews.

March 2: Ranking the top 30 closers.

March 5: Ranking the top 15 save sleepers. 

March 7: Ranking the top holds options."

Tim McLeod tlmcleod
Feb 26 '18

I'm getting more and more proficient with Excel over the years.  Wrote some formula to prorate ZiPS stats today based upon my own AB projections using the TRUNC function for the first time to drop fractions of RBI, Runs, etc.  Plugged in Alex's formulae to calculate value and voila, $2,205 on hitting.  I still haven't done the formula for Avg, but I'll work the details until I zero out the net value of the category.  I'm not sure I'll have to do anything else with hitting unless there are free agents added.  That's just a touch over 70%.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 23 '18

Good question. Somewhere along the line, when you keep adding starts in a relief pitcher's data box, he becomes a starter. But I'm not sure where. Just over half doesn't do it.


The program itself and almost all of the information that's in it (impossible to include all) in Excel and text files.

The program still has a teensy weensy bug. AL pitchers with no projections are getting a value of $3 in 5x5. We finally figured out what's causing this and will fix it this weekend.

Almost all of these pitchers are prospects for people who play in dynasty leagues.

Undoubtedly, there are other mistakes; there always are. But we are pretty happy with this first of version of Patton $ Online 2018.

I'm going to start that thread and keep talking about it. 

Alex Patton Alex
Feb 16 '18

The only way to change it is to change the projected Games/Games Started ratio. I just played around with it a bit and a player with the same number of Games and Games Started is always a Starter. But in brief experimenting it wasn't clear when he flips.

The field isn't new, and it is problematic since you can't adjust it manually, but it gives a rough way to sort pitchers by role.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Feb 16 '18

Looking good. Downloaded today the software. Is the sort by type of pitchers new, using position in a double sort? and is there a way to change a pitcher's type?

David Molyneaux NeauxBrainers ()
Feb 16 '18

Our usually smooth subscription renewal system is crashing mid-step, probably because Stripe changed the API or something since last year. If you go and renew your subscription and put in your credit card, just be patient. We are checking the page several times a day and will make sure your subscription is properly set up if your charge goes through.


Colin Summers Colin (Flying Blog)
Feb 16 '18