Kyle Gibson Philadelphia Phillies

Age: 33 (October 23, 1987) | 6' 6" | 215lbs. | Throws: Right P-32
Tm Lg YEAR W L SV Hld G GS IP H HR BB SO ERA WHIP Rating BB/9 SO/9 BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
MIN AAA 2017 1 2 0 0 3 3 17.1 13 1 5 23 2.08 1.04 0.98 2.6 11.9 .317 n/a
MIN AL 2017 12 10 0 0 29 29 158.0 182 24 60 121 5.07 1.53 1.57 3.4 6.9 .327 51/23/26 -3 2
MIN AL 2018 10 13 0 0 32 32 196.1 177 23 79 179 3.62 1.30 1.28 3.6 8.2 .291 50/22/28 10 14
MIN AL 2019 13 7 0 2 34 29 160.0 175 23 56 160 4.84 1.44 1.48 3.2 9.0 .343 51/25/24 4 8
TEX AL 2020 2 6 0 0 12 12 67.0 73 12 30 58 5.37 1.54 1.58 4.0 7.8 .318 51/27/22 -13 -3
MIN AL 2020 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0 0.0 0.00 n/a 0 -0
TEX AL 2021 6 3 0 0 19 19 113.0 92 9 41 94 2.87 1.18 1.12 3.3 7.5 .270 51/21/29 15 14
PHI NL 2021 4 4 0 0 9 8 52.0 52 5 18 38 4.85 1.35 1.32 3.1 6.6 .302 53/17/30 1 2
Career 9yrs 79 81 0 2 233 227 1317.2 1359 153 481 1035 4.44 1.40 1.39 3.3 7.1 .310 n/a
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09.03: Kyle Gibson was pounded for eight runs in 5 1/3 innings by the Marlins on Friday. (Gibson has had an exceptional season, but he relies more than most on his
defense and Philly's just isn't any good. He's now 4-3 with a 4.46 ERA
for his new team and 10-6 with a 3.30 ERA overall.)

Alex Patton Alex
Sep 4

Fightins get a win and a save from their trade-deadline acquisitions to go a half game up on the Mets. Gibson hit a 2-0 pitch for  single in the fifth, knocking in the first run of his career, breaking a 1-1 tie.

Bryce Harper, who would drive in the deciding runs with a two-run homer in the eighth: 

“He got to 2-0, I was like, ‘He’s got to be taking right here. Then, bam, base knock; me and J.T. looked at each other like, ‘All right, well, there we go.’”

Alex Patton Alex
Aug 7

No Alex, certainly not.  I think Texpope has made some nice arguments in the past (for NL-only leagues) about balancing the stats of new NL players and those players lost to the AL.  If stats are kept from newly-AL players, there can be substantial found overall value.  

More importantly, please get vaxed all!  If not for yourself, do it for the most vulnerable folks in our society.  Children, the elderly, etc. need all of us to help out.

Bob Elam Bob-in-TX
Jul 31

I hope I didn't convey the impression that I'm an anti-vaxer. What I was trying to say is trade deadline day puts your health equally at risk if you lose your players who go to the other league. I was so much happier going for a hike.

Alex Patton Alex
Jul 31

I have two takes on this Bob. Losing stats when a player goes to the other league is a reasonable way to play, if you want to play that way, and would be reasonably handicapable (as you suggest) if you lost all traded players. But since the risk of losing one to the other league is somewhere around 50/50 (especially at auction time) IF he's dealt, the change in market value of potentially traded players in advance is fairly small.

\And when the rumors are flying fast and furious, the return on a player like Kimbrel (could be traded to NL, could go to AL, could be a setup guy both ways) is vanishingly small. No one wants to look the fool. So, the market isn't terribly responsive to the risk early, and is overly responsive just before the chips fall, so the effects of the rule are "tough cookies" or "well played," most of the time at least, with few ways to arbitrage the risk or mitigate the damage in the market. That's fine, it means that fortunes can change dramatically on July 30th or 31st, and that can be fun.

The guys in our league who don't want to carry over stats from the NL say it's because they don't want to follow NL box scores, which is silly given the percentage of interleague games every team plays all season long.

Being able to buy players at auction without the overt fear of a trade, and not being bullied by trade rumors into making an embarrassing trade, are reasons to let the stats carry over. You buy the players at auction, you pay a fair price and you get to play with them all season long. I think this is fairer, for sure, less subject to luck (though luck is  clearly a factor), maybe because I'm the guy who didn't see Willy Adames ending up in the NL before midseason.

Ps. In hindsight I should have considered Adames more of a trade risk, and maybe a better player would have before the fact.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Jul 31

So Alex, I rarely wade into politics on PattonandCo, except maybe to chide Andypro.  But wow, I couldn't disagree more!  I am a safety professional and passionate "must vaxer."  But I also passionately support NOT retaining stats from NL players moving to the AL.  This is a critical element of draft and trade strategy!  If you have a resurgent Kimbrel and think he's going to be traded, then cash out.  And buy his handcuffs.

Vaccination is a choice that affects many others.  Put simply, get vaxed or pay the social price!   But if you gamble on trade bait, then you may lose that bet. #callmehardass

Bob Elam Bob-in-TX
Jul 31

There's a hard-ass hard core that votes every year at the winter meeting not to keep the stats of players traded to the NL. I fail to see how they are any different from anti-vaxers.

Alex Patton Alex
Jul 30

At noon today I said the heck with it and went for a hike. Here's what was waiting for me at OnRoto when I came back:

07.30: Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that the Phillies are close to acquiring Kyle Gibson and Ian Kennedy from the Rangers. () Hide
07.30: Levi Weaver of The Athletic reports that the Rays are the "leading candidates" to land Kyle Gibson. (The
Padres are also still in the mix for Gibson and have to be a threat
after they missed out on Jose Berrios, and Mark Feinsand hears that the
Phillies are "making a hard push." Gibson has struggled of late but has
had a fine season overall and is under team control for 2022, as well.)
07.30: Jon Morosi of MLB Network reports that the Padres are in the mix for Kyle Gibson, likely as a backup plan in the even they aren't able to acquire Jose Berrios. (Berrios would seem to be at the top of president of baseball operations A.J.
Preller's wish list at this point, but there is plenty of competition
from other clubs for the right-hander's services. Gibson has scuffled in
his last three starts and still has a year of team control, but the
Rangers ultimately seem very likely to trade him.)
Alex Patton Alex
Jul 30

Believe it or not, both players would probably rather be in Philadelphia.

Alex Patton Alex
Jul 30