Justin Verlander Houston Astros

Age: 37 (February 20, 1983) | 6' 5" | 225lbs. | Throws: Right P-34
Tm Lg YEAR W L SV Hld G GS IP H HR BB SO ERA WHIP Rating BB/9 SO/9 BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
DET AL 2006 17 9 0 0 30 30 186.0 187 21 60 124 3.63 1.33 1.34 2.9 6.0 .293 n/a 20
DET AL 2007 18 6 0 0 32 32 201.2 181 20 67 183 3.66 1.23 1.21 3.0 8.2 .294 n/a 25 23
DET AL 2008 11 17 0 0 33 33 201.0 195 18 87 163 4.84 1.40 1.32 3.9 7.3 .305 n/a 1 6
DET AL 2009 19 9 0 0 35 35 240.0 219 20 63 269 3.45 1.18 1.17 2.4 10.1 .328 n/a 31 30
DET AL 2010 18 9 0 0 33 33 224.0 190 14 71 219 3.38 1.17 1.10 2.9 8.8 .299 n/a 26 25
DET AL 2011 24 5 0 0 34 34 251.0 174 24 57 250 2.40 0.92 0.95 2.0 9.0 .247 40/18/42 52 44
DET AL 2012 17 8 0 0 33 33 238.0 192 19 60 239 2.65 1.06 1.05 2.3 9.0 .286 42/22/36 35 33
DET AL 2013 13 12 0 0 34 34 218.0 212 19 75 217 3.47 1.32 1.28 3.1 9.0 .327 38/23/39 12 17
DET AL 2014 15 12 0 0 32 32 206.0 223 18 65 159 4.54 1.40 1.37 2.8 6.9 .327 40/20/41 -1 5
DET AAA 2015 0 0 0 0 2 2 8.1 10 0 2 12 3.24 1.44 1.32 2.2 13.0 .465 n/a
DET AL 2015 5 8 0 0 20 20 133.0 113 13 32 113 3.38 1.09 1.12 2.2 7.6 .276 35/20/46 11 12
DET AL 2016 16 9 0 0 34 34 227.1 171 30 57 254 3.05 1.00 1.08 2.3 10.1 .267 34/19/48 34 34
DET AL 2017 10 8 0 0 28 28 172.0 153 23 67 176 3.82 1.28 1.28 3.5 9.2 .296 34/24/42 11 14
HOU AL 2017 5 0 0 0 5 5 34.0 17 4 5 43 1.06 0.65 0.75 1.3 11.4 .197 32/20/48 14 11
HOU AL 2018 16 9 0 0 34 34 214.0 156 28 37 290 2.52 0.90 1.01 1.6 12.2 .290 29/20/51 42 40
HOU AL 2019 21 6 0 0 34 34 223.0 137 36 42 300 2.58 0.80 0.95 1.7 12.1 .235 36/19/45 55 49
HOU AL 2020 1 0 0 0 1 1 6.0 3 2 1 7 3.00 0.67 1.08 1.5 10.5 .092 62/0/38 398 287
Career 16yrs 226 129 0 0 454 454 2986.1 2538 310 851 3013 3.33 1.13 1.15 2.6 9.1 .292 n/a
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How hard is it to win 300 games?

He might not make it.

Alex Patton Alex
Nov 22 '19

Astros' Justin Verlander wins second career AL Cy Young Award ... I think this is a good call, I would vote for Verlander based on the whole body of work for the season.

Howard Lynch LynchMob
Nov 14 '19

Ken Davidoff, bemoaning what might have been in the Bronx:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/28/astros-justin-verlander-heist-leaves-yankees-left-to-wonder/

Alex Patton Alex
Oct 29 '19

Same thing for JV and his #1 age 36 comp Mike Mussina

Wins +1

Losses +2

ERA +0.31

Ks +606

CG -30

Win%  -.002

GP +10

GS +10

IP -41

Hits -339

BB +166

ShO -14

Saves 0

This may give us an idea of which stat differences have the biggest SS impact. 



van wilhoite LVW
Oct 26 '19

Comparing Verlander and Gibson thru their age 36 seasons. The +\-  by each stat is how far ahead or behind(better or worse for rate stats) Gibby  that JV is.

Wins 0

Losses -12

ERA - 0.54

Ks +220

CG -206

Win%  +.021

GP +5

GS +43

IP -358.1

Hits -229

BB -263

ShO -45

Saves -4



van wilhoite LVW
Oct 26 '19
  • One point for each difference of 1 win.

  • One point for each difference of 2 losses.

  • One point for each difference of .002 in winning percentage (max 100 points).

  • One point for each difference of .02 in ERA (max 100 points).

  • One point for each difference of 10 games pitched.

  • One point for each difference of 20 starts.

  • One point for each difference of 20 complete games.

  • One point for each difference of 50 innings pitched.

  • One point for each difference of 50 hits allowed.

  • One point for each difference of 30 strikeouts.

  • One point for each difference of 10 walks.

  • One point for each difference of 5 shutouts.

  • One point for each difference of 3 saves


Jack Morris is #2 on the career SS to Bob Gibson



van wilhoite LVW
Oct 26 '19

Who would have expected Bob Gibson and Mike Mussina to be in the same comp?

We assume there's some sort of logic in the algorithm that creates comps. Might be a false assumption. Change one variable (I'm guessing) and you get a completely different list.

Alex Patton Alex
Oct 26 '19

Verlander now scores 66 on Black Ink.  That's 15th All-Time among pitchers.  He's only 35th in JAWS, just behind the average HOF P.

Through age 36, his top 10 comps are:

Mussina

Pettitte

Pedro

CC

Bob Gibson

Bob Welch (who would have expected that!)

Tim Hudson

Roger Clemens

Halladay

Juan Marichal

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Oct 26 '19

Did the Angels actually want to help Verlander or were they just in a hurry to go home?

Milestone Watch: Justin Verlander

Justin Verlander just barely missed cracking Yesterday's Top Performers section, allowing 3 earned runs in 6 innings of work. However, those 6 innings were also stocked with 12 strikeouts, which brought him to 300 strikeouts for the season and 3,000 strikeouts for his career. He is the 18th pitcher in MLB history to record 3,000 strikeouts in their career. Here's a look at the next pitchers on the all-time strikeouts leaderboard that Verlander could pass next season.

RkPlayerSO
12Fergie Jenkins3192
13Pedro Martinez3154
14Bob Gibson3117
15Curt Schilling3116
16CC Sabathia3093
17John Smoltz3084
18Justin Verlander3006

See the full leaderboard at Baseball-Reference.com

Verlander joins his teammate Gerrit Cole in the 300-strikeout club this season. As remarked upon in this newsletter when Cole reached that milestone, Cole and Verlander join Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling in 2002 as the only pairs of teammates to reach 300 strikeouts in the same season. You can see the full list of 300-strikeout seasons in MLB history at Baseball-Reference.com's Pitching Season Finder.

One final footnote to mention here is that Verlander recorded 12 strikeouts last night on just 80 pitches. Dating back to 1988, when we first have mostly complete pitch data, Verlander is just the 4th pitcher in our database to record that many strikeouts in an outing of 80 pitches or less. Here's a look at the group Verlander joins.

PlayerDateTmOppRsltIPSOPit
Justin Verlander2019‑09‑28HOULAAW 6‑36.01280
Blake Snell2019‑06‑30TBRTEXW 6‑26.01280
Chris Sale2018‑08‑12BOSBALW 4‑15.01268
Matt Perisho1999‑10‑03TEXANAL 0‑16.01278
Kevin Millwood1999‑06‑17ATLHOUW 8‑57.01179

See the full list at Baseball-Reference.com's Pitching Game Finder

Alex Patton Alex
Sep 29 '19

But here's the thought to chew on:

... And this is the point: No team has ever had identical twins quite like Cole and Verlander at the top of their rotation. The fascinating question will be: What will this mean come playoff time? On the one hand, the Astros basically go into the postseason with not one but two Tom Seavers and that seems like a pretty good recipe for winning a World Series.

On the other hand, Cole and Verlander are similar enough that I can’t help but wonder if, over a seven-game series, batters will begin to get a bit more comfortable against that style of pitching. Part of what made Koufax-Drysdale or Johnson-Schilling or Maddux-Glavine so devastating was their contrasting styles, they were great in such different ways. I mean, let’s not get carried away, Cole and Verlander are not really the same pitcher, they do offer different challenges, but it’s a similar enough look and hitters are so great now …

Alex Patton Alex
Sep 22 '19