Justin Verlander Houston Astros

Age: 37 (February 20, 1983) | 6' 5" | 225lbs. | Throws: Right P-34
Tm Lg YEAR W L SV Hld G GS IP H HR BB SO ERA WHIP Rating BB/9 SO/9 BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
DET AL 2006 17 9 0 0 30 30 186.0 187 21 60 124 3.63 1.33 1.34 2.9 6.0 .293 n/a 20
DET AL 2007 18 6 0 0 32 32 201.2 181 20 67 183 3.66 1.23 1.21 3.0 8.2 .294 n/a 25 23
DET AL 2008 11 17 0 0 33 33 201.0 195 18 87 163 4.84 1.40 1.32 3.9 7.3 .305 n/a 1 6
DET AL 2009 19 9 0 0 35 35 240.0 219 20 63 269 3.45 1.18 1.17 2.4 10.1 .328 n/a 31 30
DET AL 2010 18 9 0 0 33 33 224.0 190 14 71 219 3.38 1.17 1.10 2.9 8.8 .299 n/a 26 25
DET AL 2011 24 5 0 0 34 34 251.0 174 24 57 250 2.40 0.92 0.95 2.0 9.0 .247 40/18/42 52 44
DET AL 2012 17 8 0 0 33 33 238.0 192 19 60 239 2.65 1.06 1.05 2.3 9.0 .286 42/22/36 35 33
DET AL 2013 13 12 0 0 34 34 218.0 212 19 75 217 3.47 1.32 1.28 3.1 9.0 .327 38/23/39 12 17
DET AL 2014 15 12 0 0 32 32 206.0 223 18 65 159 4.54 1.40 1.37 2.8 6.9 .327 40/20/41 -1 5
DET AAA 2015 0 0 0 0 2 2 8.1 10 0 2 12 3.24 1.44 1.32 2.2 13.0 .465 n/a
DET AL 2015 5 8 0 0 20 20 133.0 113 13 32 113 3.38 1.09 1.12 2.2 7.6 .276 35/20/46 11 12
DET AL 2016 16 9 0 0 34 34 227.1 171 30 57 254 3.05 1.00 1.08 2.3 10.1 .267 34/19/48 34 34
DET AL 2017 10 8 0 0 28 28 172.0 153 23 67 176 3.82 1.28 1.28 3.5 9.2 .296 34/24/42 11 14
HOU AL 2017 5 0 0 0 5 5 34.0 17 4 5 43 1.06 0.65 0.75 1.3 11.4 .197 32/20/48 14 11
HOU AL 2018 16 9 0 0 34 34 214.0 156 28 37 290 2.52 0.90 1.01 1.6 12.2 .290 29/20/51 42 40
HOU AL 2019 21 6 0 0 34 34 223.0 137 36 42 300 2.58 0.80 0.95 1.7 12.1 .235 36/19/45 55 49
HOU AL 2020 1 0 0 0 1 1 6.0 3 2 1 7 3.00 0.67 1.08 1.5 10.5 .092 62/0/38 2 2
Career 16yrs 226 129 0 0 454 454 2986.1 2538 310 851 3013 3.33 1.13 1.15 2.6 9.1 .292 n/a

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Alex Patton Alex
Dec 15 '12
Somebody gave Rodney a first!

I felt like Verlander and Price were very close, and in this case I think (because I didn't weigh in beforehand) I would have picked Verlander. But choosing a guy to repeat after a year that isn't nearly as dominant is hard, call it fatigue, which is why I understand the edge to Price. Not a bad pick at all.
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Nov 14 '12
My ALCY
1 Verlander
2 Price
3 King Felix
4 Weaver
5 Rodney (Yes, Rodney isn't the 5th most valuable pitcher in the league, but he was cool)
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Oct 3 '12
In spite of the edge in run support the breakdown of number of runs in each start makes it seem closer than the .78 difference that it is. For instance Price had 3 games of 0 run support and Verlander 0(as everyone well knows it's impossible to get a win no matter how well you pitch if you get 0 runs). Price's is also skewed by games where they scored 9, 10, and 12 runs while Verlander's high in any game was 8.

Price had a much better RAA in his no decisions 1.56(1.56 ERA) than Verlander 3.72(3.56 ERA), though JV did have the edge in RAA and ERA in wins(1.18 to 1.89) and losses with the biggest edge being in the losses(5.30 for JV and 7.62 for DP).

The Rays did have the better bullpen by far. The biggest question the voters will have to answer as far as conventional wisdom is do you deny the league winner in Wins, ERA, and RAA the award.
van wilhoite LVW
Sep 30 '12
LVW, that's pretty useful, except it's random endpoints. If you look at who they've faced compared to the league average, probably only the top 3 matter, because the other teams are within only a few percent of the league average runs scored. Price definitely has faced tougher competition, albeit in a lot fewer innings. Even if he throws a complete game in his final start he'll have only 90% of the innings Verlander has thrown.

But, another thing to consider is that Verlander has had the second worst defense in the league behind him, just slightly better than KC and significantly worse than the next worse team. DER of .677 v league average of .694. (All that Cabrera at 3B - among other poor defensive choices). Meanwhile, TB has one of the best defenses, 4th in the league and solidly above the league average. DER of .702.

Run support over the entire game started not just when they were in the game was 3.98 for Verlander; 4.76 for Price.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Sep 30 '12
Top 5 teams in AL in runs/game and number of times Verlander and Price each faced them:

1. Rangers- JV 2; DP 2
2. Yankees- JV 3; DP 5
3. Angels- JV 1; DP 2
4. Red Sox- JV 3; DP 5
5. White Sox JV 2; DP 0(scheduled to face them today).

Bottom 5 teams same thing
1. Mariners JV 1; DP 0
2. Indians JV 3; DP 1
3. Royals JV 4; DP 1
4. Rays JV 2; DP 0 obviously
5. A's JV 2; DP 2

Unearned runs can't be ingnored as if the pitcher is totally blameless because most every UnER that scores the pitcher is responsible for either allowing the batter that scores to reach base or allowing the batter to drive in the run that reached on the error.

Unearned Runs Allowed: Verlander 10; Price 3.
van wilhoite LVW
Sep 30 '12
Finishes his regular season with an exclamation point. He's the top pitcher in the AL this year. Most IP, most Ks, Best ERA+, second in ERA and WHIP. He doesn't have the stats of last year, so that will cost him in the balloting, but unless Price comes up with a 25 inning start to end the season, I can't see Price being ahead in my Cy Young rankings despite the wins. And Weaver is what, 50 innings behind?
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Sep 29 '12
That was .247 w Jhonny Peralta. But now he's got him, Cabrera, and until recently no legit keystone defender either.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Aug 30 '12
I'd be interested in seeing some sort of infield fly% adjusted BABIP since those are outs 99 times out of 100 no matter who's pitching.

Lats year Verlander had a .247 BABIP with a infield fly% of 10.9; this year is infield fly% is an incredible 16.1% and even with that his BABIP is up 35 points with that LD% increase.
van wilhoite LVW
Aug 30 '12
He's looked mortal twice this month, but also beat the Rangers and Yankees in successive starts striking out 22. Last start he dominated a depleted Jays lineup striking out 12.

I had no idea his BABIP was that low last year.
michael chielens darkhorse
Aug 29 '12