Bryce Harper Philadelphia Phillies

Age: 29 (October 16, 1992) | 6' 3" | 210lbs. | Bats: Left 1B-1 OF-139 CF-3 RF-48 DH-2 PH-4
Tm Lg YEAR G AB R H BB SO 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BA OBP SLG BB% SO% BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
WAS NL 2018 159 550 103 137 130 169 34 0 34 100 13 3 .249 .393 .496 19 24 .289 40/22/38 29 28
PHI NL 2019 157 573 98 149 99 178 36 1 35 114 15 3 .260 .372 .510 15 26 .313 38/24/38 30 28
PHI NL 2020 58 190 41 51 49 43 9 2 13 33 8 2 .268 .420 .542 20 18 .279 36/18/46 35 32
PHI NL 2021 141 488 101 151 100 134 42 1 35 84 13 3 .309 .429 .615 17 23 .359 41/22/37 38 35
PHI NL 2022 34 131 29 40 11 33 14 1 9 27 6 1 .305 .361 .634 7 22 .337 29/30/41 12 11
Career 11yrs 1317 4688 879 1313 844 1222 284 23 276 779 117 40 .280 .391 .527 15 22 .320 n/a
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The final 2012 bid limits that were posted for this player: PK 5x5: $6
Alex Patton Alex
Dec 15 '12
Interesting thing about world series matchups. The last time both teams in a world series were making their 1st ever appearance was 1906! the 3rd ever series.

The only chance for that to happen again without expansion would be a Nationals/Mariners matchup.

The last time it came close to happening was 2001 when Arizona made the WS and Seattle the ALCS.
van wilhoite LVW
Oct 9 '12
From the AP recap of yesterday's game:

Nationals rookie Bryce Harper went 1 for 5 and struck out four times. He also was thrown out at third base on an ill-advised attempt to advance. He is 1 for 10 in the series with six strikeouts.

"Do I look overanxious? You think so?" he said to one reporter. "Maybe you should be a hitting coach."

It's a shame, really, that the baseball gods didn't arrange to have the Nationals play the Angels in the World Series.

A fair chance that it will happen someday.
Alex Patton Alex
Oct 9 '12
I know he's only 19; but making a foolish out at 3rd down by 4 runs late; guess he was too good as a youth to listen and learn you don't do that.
van wilhoite LVW
Oct 8 '12
I don't know mixed leagues, but in a single league I think Trout's as likely to be worth $45 as Harper is $35. The steals are just that valuable. He was worth more than $45 this year. Sure, it is possibly a peak, but even going down 15% of production, the extra ABs should help with the counting stats in making some of it back. Meanwhile, to earn a $10 profit on $25, Harper needs to improve by approximately 40%. From that view, Trout is the guy to keep at those prices.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Oct 5 '12
Good question, Texpope.

I don't think you could go wrong with either one at those prices, but I am a Harper guy. The power he showed near the end of the season was eye opening for a 19 year old. He was hitting shots that made Mike Morse proud. He went through an awful slump but worked through it, turned it around and played like a seasoned vet down the stretch for division winning team. He is playing at level way beyond his years for a team with the best record in the NL.

Trout is something special, but at the end of the day, from an ROI perspective, I give Harper the edge.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Oct 5 '12
So ... as a thought exercise.

Going into 2013, would you rather protect Trout at 35, or Harper at 25?
Phil Ponebshek Texpope
Oct 5 '12
That, 30 steals, and better defense.

But, BABIP data for hitters runs to a personal normal. Whereas for pitchers (except knuckleballers) it runs to a league normal. Guys like Jeter, Ichiro, Boggs, Gwynn always have high BABIP because of the way they hit balls and/or a speed component. Others always have low BABIP because of the way they hit balls. It will take 2-3 years to see if Trout was lucky (my expectation was he was lucky to the tune of anything over .350 BABIP) or Harper was unlucky (my guess is he was at or slightly below what will be come his normal).

It will be interesting to see how ZIPS projects them b/c they had almost identical G/L/F%. Maybe I'll ship the question over to Dan Szymborski for a column idea.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Oct 5 '12
For those who think BABIP is largely a function of luck: BABIP is the main difference between Harper's rookie year and Trout's.
Alex Patton Alex
Oct 5 '12
Comps through age 19 season on B-R.com. Not a ton of qualifiers:
George Davis (930) *
Mel Ott (928) *
Al Kaline (906) *
Ty Cobb (899) *
Buddy Lewis (892)
Paul Hines (880)
Phil Cavarretta (869)
Ed Kranepool (865)
Monte Ward (865) *
Bob Kennedy (849)
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Oct 5 '12