Thread: Stage Four

It doesn’t exist. But we keep hoping.

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Yeah, Stage 3 . . . it's rough.  Even more important, then, to have bid prices that actually add up, and the will to stick by them.  We still have a few owners who, I believe, are pretty much making it up as they go along.

Mike Dean TMU2009

In my league people bounce back and forth from announcing players to clear cash from competitors (either stat specific or best player by position/pitcher available) or players they want for themselves.  Because the draft order rarely affects prices in Stage 3 clearing cash has its value because it takes people out of the running for other players.  Grabbing players you want early also has its value because you can structure your team around them.  In most cases, it's a wash. Because, Stage 3.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed

Like all of these kinds of tactics, they tend to work sporadically, until other owner see it worked in past years and get wise to it. Sometimes they overreact; shows the wisdom of having a comprehensive bit list that adds up, and a way to keep track of whether the league is over- or under-spending, so you can decide whether to be buying or hanging back early. Regardless of who get called out early. (Early is harder to suss, of course, but that's when it's important to keep to your bid limits. Later is when you need to be more flexible.)

mike fenger mike
I've had mixed results on toss the hotshot rookie early that I DONT want.  I'm usually counting on a bidding war, but don't always get it.
Kent Ostby Seadogs

Some owners try to nominate a lower-end guy early, on the theory that people will let him go by at a decent price because there are so many options left.  Can't say that it seems to work.  But we have our closer going in this year, and we will be nominating closers early and often.

Mike Dean TMU2009
With a few exceptions, I just bring up the highest dollar player on my list.  I don't want to leave some $20 outfielder until late and then realize that I don't have the hammer.

I do less of the going twice bidding now that it's online.  It's less satisfying when you can't hear someone cursing you in the same room.
Kent Ostby Seadogs

I successfully used a system I called "the 9's" for a couple of years before the owners caught on to it.  When players were bid up I tried to be the one who would reach 9, 19, 29, or 39 before the others.  Once you reach those numbers owners were reluctant to break the 10, 20, 30, 40 barrier so my roster would end up with a lot of contracts that ended in 9.  When it worked I was able to avoid bidding wars.  I would also use a jump bid to reach the 9 level.  I still use it occasionally but the other owners usually spot it and force me to go higher than 9 to get the player.

Tom Barnes Turtles

We have an owner who will sometimes say, "If you let him go, I'll do you a favor later."  Always laughter.  Sometimes a favor. 

Mike Landau ML-

I had a really interesting owner in a league about 20 years ago.  He would bid "$27 and that's my final offer."  When someone said "$28" he would wait until going twice and then say "$29."  The first year he did this the league erupted in laughter.  Of course he got the player.  It also helped that he announced the same thing earlier in the auction and it was his true final offer because he got the player at that price or did not bid again.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed

Let's say the bidding on a certain player is at $26, and you have him at $28/$29 on your sheet, and you're hoping to get him at $27.

For some reason, we believe that if we wait until the very last moment, the rest of the room will think that your $27 is the absolute high ANYONE is willing to go on that player. Chances are, another owner was also waiting until the very last moment and you just beat him to the $27 bid.

In fact, it's more logical just to bid $27 right away, so you can be the first to get to $27. If you don't get there first, then YOU have to decide if you want to go up to $28, which is right around the range most of the other owners had the player priced. So, it makes more sense to just say $27 right away, and let the other owners get squeamish at $28.

Of course none of that matters because everyone is still going to wait until 'going twice' anyway.

Keith Prosseda andypro