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Matt Capps Atlanta Braves
Well, I don't dislike him THAT much. $6 was my price for him last year, but I agree he needs a higher price fro 2008. That said, I'm not so very bullish on him; I do expect some regression, and I suspect others (Marte? an in-season acquisition?) will also get some save chances.
mike fenger mike
Jan 29 '08
Daric Barton Toronto Blue Jays
stevep- You took a shot at me regarding my analysis on Joe Mauer. I addressed some of the "mistakes" in Mauer's comment section.

Here let me address your Barton comments.

"Barton hit 4 HRs in 18 games"
This sample size is totally useless for analysis purposes. And, it's the plate appearances that matter, not the games played. Barton had 4 HR in 82 PA (let's ignore HBP and sac fly data for now). When Mauer came up he hit 6 HR in 111 PA. Which is more impressive? They were the same age when they came up. Since you say that Mauer doesn't show power, but Barton does, it's confusing to me.

Barton's 5 minor league seasons had splits of .301/.414/.458. Mauer's 3 seasons had splits of .331/.407/.424. Mauer is a better hitter for batting average, while Barton walks a lot more. Barton has a slightly better power component when you consider ISO since Mauer's batting average advantage helps his SLG.

I don't think you can expect more than 12-15 HR this year though. Granted in 3-5 years he's going to be a stud, but unless you already have him in a minor league status and keep him buried this year, and only activate him opening day 2009, I don't think 5 years from now matters in rotisserie terms.

Teams playing to win this year have to bid based upon this year's projected production.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Jan 29 '08
Matt Capps Atlanta Braves
Guess Mike doesn't like Matt too much huh?
Jeff Baum BaumThreat
Jan 29 '08
Barry Bonds San Francisco Giants
Does anyone know what his salary demand is?
E Park yoda
Jan 29 '08
Cliff Corcoran has written an interesting article over at SI.com ranking all 30 teams in order of their likelihood of signing the "elephant in baseball's living room" (and apparent conversation-stopper here) who is still roaming free on the free-agent range.

And the winner is?

1) San Diego Padres: The Padres came painfully close to the post-season last year, giving them something to prove. They also have a gaping hole in left field, which is currently occupied by Scott Hairston. The drag here is that Bonds is a career .195/.405/.390 hitter in San Diego's pitcher-friendly Petco Park. Still, the Padres, who have taken a less controversial but also far less favorable chance with Jim Edmonds in center, seem more likely to sign Bonds than the other teams that could best use him (the Angels, Braves, D'backs, Indians, and Mets), and would benefit more than other the three teams (Texas, Houston, and Seattle) that seem most likely to give him a shot. Signing in San Diego would also keep Bonds in California and out of an intense local media spotlight. San Diego seems like the best destination for Bonds despite his past struggles in Petco. Should he land there, he'll undoubtedly tip the balance of power in the division, but then, he'll do that no matter where he plays this year.
Alex Patton Alex
Jan 29 '08
Paul Byrd Boston Red Sox
I guess the human growth hormone hasn't enhanced his 83 mph fastball. And, unfortunately there's no way to enhance what's between the ears or there would be alot more great ballplayers.
Jeff Jaffee JeffJaffee
Jan 29 '08
Chuck Knoblauch Kansas City Royals
Just don't let him throw a baseball inside the courtroom. That would be premeditated murder.
Jeff Jaffee JeffJaffee
Jan 29 '08
Now that they've found this poor fellow, who was hiding for a very good reason, the question that waits to be answered is, Will he perjure himself?
Alex Patton Alex
Jan 29 '08
Greg Dobbs Washington Nationals
I've subtracted $4 from my bid limit for Greg Dobbs.
Alex Patton Alex
Jan 29 '08
Daric Barton Toronto Blue Jays
I know that most people's concern with Barton is the lack of power. However, I like what I saw in 2007 and young players often do not show power until they reach the majors. I will go out on a limb and say that he will hit for 20 HRs in 08 given enough playing time.
E Park yoda
Jan 29 '08
Paul Byrd Boston Red Sox
He was on my team last year so I constantly 'watched' him on MLB.COM on the little game screen. While biting nails and waiting for the collapse that happened occasionally around inning 5 or 6.

But one thing I noticed from that was this guy has pinpoint control. And a plan. He'd throw 4 straight 'fastballs' to someone off the plate in precisely the same position. Virtually never threw that thing for a strike thankfully.

I saw enough to think he could stick around and be useful a while longer, ala Moyer, and thus is just above the crapshoot.
John Brand JohnB
Jan 29 '08
To those of us who key in on WHIP when looking for pitchers he's a gem. Most decent WHIP pitchers go much higher. (i.e. on better teams with far more wins) Also, he seems to consistently outperform the projection. (Though I am too lazy to back that up with real numbers.) That's based on hearing "he's washed up" more than once on these boards. I'd pay at least 15 for him as I dont' think he's as big a crapshoot as most pitchers.
John Brand JohnB
Jan 29 '08
David Eckstein San Diego Padres
You want to make Eckstein's limit low enough, but you also want to make sure Jeter, Young, Guillen, and Cabrera's are high enough. Shortstop falls off in a hurry, and if you don't get on of the top four or five, you might be scuffling for Eckstein at the end.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Jan 29 '08
Daric Barton Toronto Blue Jays
SteveP: You wouldn't be an A's fan, would you? I'm sure that Oakland would be happy with Kevin Youkilis production, but that wouldn't make him a star. Are you talking Ryan Howard, Prince Fielder or all the way to Albert?
Jeff Jaffee JeffJaffee
Jan 29 '08
Nick Markakis Atlanta Braves
this is the same Markakis who had 33 games above A before getting to the bigs?

Just asking....
Steve Parsons stevep
Jan 29 '08
Daric Barton Toronto Blue Jays
Barton hit 4 HRs in 18 games and is 224lbs...

barton hit 13 home runs in 90 games as a catcher in 2004.
13 in a full season in 2005..despite a knee issue.
2 in 2006 after/during the knee problems.
and 13 in 2007.

Unlike Mauer, Barton has major secondary power numbers. He didjn't play in Salt Lake, or Vegas, he played Sacramento (not an extreme hitters park JeffJaffee). His K/BB ratios are u nGodly, if you believe in such things, but more importantly he walks a ton.

He's gotten on base less than .389 exactly...well...never.

His OPS has been more or less 900+ except after the injury at Sacratomato.

He's a star in the making.
Steve Parsons stevep
Jan 29 '08
Rich Harden Oakland Athletics
toz...OK the workload is is too low. Since the investment in pitchers is what it is and the results are what they are for young pitchers, go ahead, recommend that GMs and fantasy managers pick up these kind of overworked pitchers.Percentages are vastly against you.

It's also might be useful to note that the people adovacte the increased workload are guys like "dr" Mike Marshall who himself was overworked and had a shortened career and has never produced a single professional pitcher.

200+ innings for 3 years straight prior to 23 is almost a guarantee of injury - better/worse than 2/3s. Three level pitchers, that is, guys who pitch three levels in one year almost always have problems immediately.

Pitchers pitching for bad teams...pfaaah....check out Chad Cordero and Steve Carlton in their career years.

Steve Parsons stevep
Jan 29 '08
Joe Mauer Minnesota Twins
Unfortunately EugeneFreed, You are making every single mistake in the book here.

1 - OUTS are to be avoided, not strikeouts. Look at Mauer's record again and whether the K's and BA move together, or inversely. It's not unusual at all.

2 - I'd appreciate seeing some of those Boston writers who said that...I didn't notice any of them after his rookie year.

3 - 36 and 27 doubles in a turf park is an indication of lack of power based on those ABs. Look, the popular myth with mauer was that he was big and would hit for power...He never has done so. His 13 Home runs were hailed as the next babe ruth.

Why would you move him away from catcher? Pretty simple. Chronic and continuing Knee and other issues. Sorry, He hits well enough that 155 games vs. 130ish plus an extra 5-7 years seems....rather economical. But, OK, lets play the game. How much does the team benefit from him being back there...with all the negatives of less PT from your best hitter and so forth. What? Not a lot.
Steve Parsons stevep
Jan 29 '08
Richie Sexson Tampa Bay Rays
He can't be worse than last year.
Jeff Jaffee JeffJaffee
Jan 29 '08
Daric Barton Toronto Blue Jays
Looks like the classic "Money Ball" type player. Good strike zone control, solid, above average BA, low price. But 9 dingers in Sacramento in 516 at bats. Isn't that an extreme hitter's park? I know he hit 4 homers in 72 ML tries, but he's looking more like Scott Hatteberg every day. He seems to be Oakland's first baseman so far, and he most likely won't hurt you, but Chris Shelton might hit more homers in the first month than Barton all year.
Jeff Jaffee JeffJaffee
Jan 29 '08

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