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The last twenty comments in true blog fasion, with the links to their authors and the player commented upon.

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A.J. Burnett Pittsburgh Pirates
I'd be shocked if $12 got him in AL-Only.
Jurgen Maas Jurgen
Feb 1 '08
Vernon Wells New York Yankees
Staggeringly frustrating player.

I think you pay hoping for 2005 and if it turns out there's another '03 or '06 in his bat you're laughing.
Jurgen Maas Jurgen
Feb 1 '08
Why has he been mentioned so often in trade talks? It frightens
owners in AL only leagues.
Bruce BUSCHEL BBGUN
Feb 1 '08
Last year I said I'd rather have Rios at $20 than Wells at $30. (That worked out well!)

But Rios isn't as young as he seems, and his numbers got out of whack after the Home Run Derby. Now I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have Wells 'cause I think he might go for a few bucks less.
Jurgen Maas Jurgen
Feb 1 '08
Paul Konerko Chicago White Sox
With no apparent injury last year and no discernible drop in any of his interior numbers, I'd expect Konerko to bounce back to his 2004-2006 levels. He did leave the team twice last year due to deaths in the family (including his grandmother in August), so it's possible that may have had a little to do with it. Konerko's a player I'll be targeting as a possible bargain in 2008.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 1 '08
Brian Roberts New York Yankees
My real point is that middle infield is not a position where scarcity needs to be considered. There are 14 starting catchers and we need to draft 24. There are 28 starting middle infielders and we need to draft 36. There are 42 starting outfielders and we need to draft 60!!! Outfield is scarcer than middle, especially in a year where we have 19 secondbasemen who will have positive values, many over $10, and 4 over $20.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 1 '08
He slipped a little in the second-half, particulary in the power department (only 7 HR) and he fell off the map in September (.234 BA, .369 SLG). Nevertheless, I'd agree with Eugene and Yoda that the bid has to be higher. Even if Rios doesn't make it to 30 HR, he's going to hit close to .300 with that sweet swing and the steals aren't going away. Even if he doesn't become an elite player, you don't want to let someone get him for $26 and turn a profit.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 1 '08
Bob Gibson St. Louis Cardinals
Take a look at Gibson's walk rate. While he was a solid strikeout pitcher he didn't walk a lot of batters. Do you know why? Hitters went up and swung at the first decent pitch. They didn't look for the perfect pitch. Even in the late 70's early 80's there were very few batters who worked the count. Jim Rice was "the most feared hitter in baseball" (patent pending) and he walked fewer than 50 times a season. Maybe he wasn't that feared, but that's another argument altogether.

Since batters weren't working the count there were fewer pitches per batter. Plus the strikezone was bigger. Remember those big chest protectors that required umpires to stand up more. The higher strike was available. That all adds up to more batters per pitch and therefore more innings.

While old-time pitchers say they didn't need pitch counts, they also didn't need as many pitches to get an out. It makes a huge difference.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 1 '08
Brian Roberts New York Yankees
BB: Someone is going to have to prove to me the effects of PEDs. Then they're going to have to offer me more proof than the circumstantially-laden Mitchell Report.

Eugene: I'd agree that 2B is a deep position. Stacked, though? Kendrick certainly has potential, but I'd like to see a full season before I crack the $20 barrier. Cabrera didn't do much with the bat last year. Lopez hasn't done much with the bat the last two years. Harris looked like a first-half wonder. Ellis probably peaked last year. These are all solid players, but the top guys at the position are Upton, Roberts and Cano, with Kinsler possibly joining them this year. I'd rather pay $30 for Roberts than $20 for Kendrick or Hill, since Roberts has much more of a track record.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 1 '08
A.J. Burnett Pittsburgh Pirates
Interesting that the AP bid is below his earnings for the last 3 years. Which are pretty darn consistent, and we all love that in a pitcher. I guess it makes sense since there is always the risk this guy tweaks the elbow flushing the john before his 1st start and missing 4 months.
John Brand JohnB
Feb 1 '08
Bob Gibson St. Louis Cardinals
Starting at the age of 30, Gibson pitched innings of 299, 280, 175, 304, 314, 294, 245, 278, 195, and 240--at the age of 39.

What has happened to the human body in the last quarter century is puzzling. Every body part is better except the pitching arm.
Bruce BUSCHEL BBGUN
Feb 1 '08
Brian Roberts New York Yankees
I disagree that 2B in the AL is a tough position. I actually think it's the deepest in the league. Roberts, Upton, Kinsler, Cano, Polanco, Ellis, Hill, Pedroia, Brendan Harris, Asdrubal Cabrera, Kendrick, Grudz, and Jose Lopez all should have solid to great earnings. Add in Casilla, Izturis, German, Barfield, Bloomquist, and Aybar worth more than $1, and Iwamura and Uribe should qualify at 2B early in the year. That's 21 secondbasemen, when you only need 12 plus 12 additional middle infielders. I'd say it's a stocked position.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 1 '08
Speed kills. PEDs give life. And not just power. All those pitchers are not shooting PEDs to hit the ball farther--they keep the body
strong and (paradoxically) healthy and enable a basestealer to heal faster, run faster, and boost his fantasy value. I recommend PEDs to all my players.
Bruce BUSCHEL BBGUN
Feb 1 '08
If the tougher PED testing has any effect at all, it will be in Roberts' power numbers. The 12 HR last year were nice, but I'm not paying Brian Roberts to hit home runs.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 1 '08
David Ortiz Boston Red Sox
I've given my bid a $2 bump, one for each comment.
Alex Patton Alex
Feb 1 '08
Brian Roberts New York Yankees
The tougher PEDs testing (or perceived tougher testing) doesn't scare anyone?
Alex Patton Alex
Feb 1 '08
Reggie Willits Los Angeles Angels
He had more than half his AB in the second half, when he batted .222. Get him as your fifth OF for $3 and you'll be very happy. If you have to go to my bid limit to get him, you've screwed up your end game.
Alex Patton Alex
Feb 1 '08
Mike Napoli Cleveland Indians
You've both made believers out of me. I've added $2 to his bid.
Alex Patton Alex
Feb 1 '08
I am intrigued by the fact that the extra base hits for Guerrero in the last 4 years are : 80 (his $43 year), 63, 68, 73. His average and OBP have all hovered in the same range, and his slugging percentage has dropped from an insane .598 to .547.

Nagging injuries seem to be the problem with Guerrero here. I don't believe the speed is going to come back at this point; Guerrero is too valuable to the lineup to get hurt running the bases; 5-8 is not out of the question. I agree with Mike, though; if Guerrero is healthy, I think we need to slot 30-35 HR back in the HR column, and, suddenly, $33 is too low.
John Toczydlowski Toz
Feb 1 '08
$30+ earnings with only 2 SB. Nevertheless, the downward march of SLG has to be a concern. And his SB days are gone for good.
Alex Patton Alex
Feb 1 '08

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