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The last twenty comments in true blog fasion, with the links to their authors and the player commented upon.

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Grant Balfour Tampa Bay Rays
He was the #1 "free loot" pitcher in the A.L. in 2008; that is, the three premier expert leagues (CBS Sportsline, LABR, and Tout Wars) all took a pass.

The rest of the Top 10: Brad Ziegler, Armando Galarraga, Jose Arredondo, Jesse Carlson, Matt Thornton, Scott Downs, Darren Oliver, Justin Masterson, and Frank Francisco.

If you play 4x4.

If you play 5x5, your list will look very different.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Dec 6 '08
He was the #1 "free loot" player in the American League in 2008 (see Jerry Hairston for the N.L. list). Rounding out the rest of the Top 10 were Shin Soo-Choo, David Murphy, Eric Hinske, Mark Teixeira, Chris Davis, Raj Davis, Ben Francisco, Joe Inglett, and Jason Bay.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Dec 6 '08
Bobby Abreu Philadelphia Phillies
The average hitter declined slightly last year, Abreu's stats were slightly better than the year before, hence the $4 raise. With 108 Runs Created, he now has a streak of 100 or more going all the way back to 1998, his first year as a regular.

Whatever happened to Richard Hidalgo?

Or Kevin Stocker.
Alex Patton Alex
Dec 6 '08
Jerry Hairston Los Angeles Dodgers
The Top 10 of these guys were Manny Ramirez, Hairston, Clint Barmes, Jody Gerut, Reed Johnson, Fernando Tatis, Willie Harris, Gabe Kapler, Blake DeWitt, and Martin Prado.

In case you all were wondering.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Dec 6 '08
Alex Rodriguez New York Yankees
Alex Rodriguez fully fits the old Patton model of the guy you are willing to overpay. For four years now, I have paid $43 for Alex (in a 5x5 keeper league w some inflation and mostly old rotisserie rules). That's $172 of stats for $172. A bargain, even in 5x5, especially considering inflation. He's always the last guy I decide to freeze, and the year I didn't I bought him back. Numbers say he should be worth about 50 in 2009.
David Molyneaux NeauxBrainr
Dec 6 '08
Jerry Hairston Los Angeles Dodgers
Yes, Hairston is the classic example of the "free loot" that comes along after the draft. And, of course, qualifying at shortstop made him worth a few extra coins.
Alex Patton Alex
Dec 5 '08
Alex Rodriguez New York Yankees
Th top 5 earners (in standard 4x4 leagues) among AL hitters last year:

Grady Sizemore $38
Alex Rodriguez $37
Josh Hamilton $36
Dustin Pedroia $34
Ian Kinsler $33

In 5x5 leagues, just subtract a dollar or two for each player, because 5x5 is the great leveler.
Alex Patton Alex
Dec 5 '08
Travis Buck Houston Astros
No, my bad.

Nevertheless, we'll keep showing last year's bids until we start with a clean slate in January.
Alex Patton Alex
Dec 5 '08
Scott Lewis Cleveland Indians
We hope to be adding last season's minor league stats shortly.
Alex Patton Alex
Dec 5 '08
Scott Rolen Cincinnati Reds
The issue here is as much valuation as it is production. If Rolen gets another 400 AB it will be hard for him not to earn $10-11, as evidenced by the scan. Paying $11 for $10 or $11 worth of stats isn't optimal, but it isn't the end of the world. If, on the other hand, Rolen puts up a $15-17 season, you've turned a tidy little profit.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Dec 5 '08
All four experts on the Facts and Flukes panel at Ron Shandler's First Pitch Arizona Fall League symposium said Aviles was a fluke; I'm thinking everyone's going to bid cautiously and by being a tad less than overly cautious, I'm going to get myself a nice little mid-price bargain.
Alex Patton Alex
Dec 5 '08
NSH, you make a good point here. I think Youk felt he needed to carry the team with Ortiz out and Manny flaking. I also think you saw a career year and the age 27 power spike a couple of years late based on his lack of early full-time experience. I can see him sustaining this production with a healthy Ortiz (or perhaps a Tex?) in the lineup.
John Toczydlowski Toz
Dec 5 '08
Scott Rolen Cincinnati Reds
I just don't see the good ROI, even at $11. The power has been sapped, the injuries continue to plague him and he is playing on a terrible surface for his back (never mind his shoulder). Rolen will generate stats, but I would not expect more than the $11 you saw last year. Bid accordingly.
John Toczydlowski Toz
Dec 5 '08
Anthony Reyes Cleveland Indians
I would love to see you pay $12-$15 for him. The 1.2 K/W and the 1.27 ratio do not support the ERA. He went about 6IP per start (only went 3 in his last start).

Those last 5 starts btw: Baltimore, Texas, Seattle and Kansas City twice.

I am not sure I would even recommend him as a $1 flier yet, though you could do worse.
John Toczydlowski Toz
Dec 5 '08
Jerry Hairston Los Angeles Dodgers
Extrapolating Hairston's numbers over 500 AB, he would have went 11/69/28/.326 and earned $32.

Undrafted in LABR, Tout Wars, and CBS Sportsline. No bid suggested by Alex, Rotoman, or Mike Fenger in the final software update.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Dec 5 '08
Alex Rodriguez New York Yankees
He tails off, and is still the second highest Patton $ earner in the American League and the American League leader in VORP.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Dec 5 '08
Travis Buck Houston Astros
Oh. My bad.

Keith Cromer Slyke
Dec 4 '08
Were all his extra hits (16 more than 2007) HRs? He struck out a tad more so maybe he went up looking to go deep more times in 2008? Did he try that out early on and then since it worked kept trying? I don't see any Brady Anderson stuff here.
Noah Hirsch NSH
Dec 4 '08
Travis Buck Houston Astros
These are still the 2008 bid prices, Slyke.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Dec 4 '08
Scott Rolen Cincinnati Reds
I have always been a Rolen fan, but his shoulder woes probably mean he will never come close to the offensive seasons he once put up on a consistent basis.

I have him at $11, but I think I will either throw him back or try to flip him in deal during the off-season.

The Blue Jays owe him $26 million over the next two years, so they will throw him out there every day, but the ROI will not be what they had hoped.


Keith Cromer Slyke
Dec 3 '08

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