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Johnny Damon Cleveland Indians
Went for $23 in Sportsline. If you believe in the odd/even HR theory, that price is super. But Damon tanked against lefties last year and is starting to show his age a little bit. Maybe DHing will save him a little bit, but I'd worry about paying this price and getting 25 empty SB.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 14 '08
Magglio Ordonez Detroit Tigers
The Sportsline crowd agreed with Eugene, pushing Ordonez to a modest $25. He earned $37 in 5x5 in 2007, but if you clip that batting average down to his career norm of .300, he's "only" a $28 player. A .300 batting average is a reasonable expectation, and that bid seems fine to me.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 14 '08
Vernon Wells New York Yankees
He went for $26 in Sportsline. The shoulder issues that plagued him in the past should be a thing of the past, so I'd expect the power to return, even if the batting average doesn't.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 14 '08
Nick Swisher Atlanta Braves
Swisher went for $26 in the Sportsline expert auction. Touts love this guy, but since most leagues don't play OBP, temper your expectations. Even if he does bounce back to his 2006 numbers, he's still only an $18 player.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 14 '08
Went for $13 in Sportsline Auction. I'm curious to see what Alex and Mike say, but I'd say $13 is a good hedge if an auction were held today.
Brian Boyaji EL-NINO
Feb 14 '08
Chien-Ming Wang Kansas City Royals
Wang is a bit disappointed in not getting a long--term contract (liek Can received). Yankees are probably wise to hold off....I really don't see him getting much better than this, but he is a solid #2 or #3 for a winning ballclub. Wonder how Girardi's tendencies (and also yet another piutching coach) will affect Wang as well. Torre loved to use his bullpen, but Wang was one pitcher Torre trusted and didn't quick-hook (although back-to-back 19W seasons suggests his bullpen was kind to him....unlike Pettitte).
Brian Boyaji EL-NINO
Feb 14 '08
Johan Santana Baltimore Orioles
You just can't afford to give that much potential profit away. I really can't see him posting anything short of his 2004-2006 numbers, and if such is the case, you need to price enforce up to $40 (in both standard 4x4 and standard 5x5 competition). I rarely go for the "big-pitcher", but he is the true exception to the rule, and I love his Mets potential.
Brian Boyaji EL-NINO
Feb 14 '08
Curtis Granderson Miami Marlins
I guess OF was where the bargains were in Sportsline. Given the prices of some of the infielders, if Granderson had been a secondbaseman he would have gone for $37.

Given the true scarcity for outfield in a 12 team AL only league versus MI, I think it makes sense to bump up only catcher for scarcity and then draft for stats.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 14 '08
Ichiro Suzuki Seattle Mariners
Given the price of hitting in the Sportsline league, there is no way I would not have had Ichiro. His average is a huge value given his 675 ABs every year and his steals are solid. In 5x5 he can be counted on for 110 runs. What's not to like?
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 14 '08
Curtis Granderson Miami Marlins
He's got room for upside if he ever learns to hit LHP at all.

(From the useless facts department it's actually kinda amazing that his #1 PECOTA comp is Andy Van Slyke who's the Tigers' outfield coach.)
Jurgen Maas Jurgen
Feb 14 '08
Torii Hunter Minnesota Twins
He went for $29 in the Sportsline expert auction. And I thought Alex and Mike's prices were high. Hunter's certainly a five-category contributor, but that batting average is more likely to be .270 next year than .287, and his other numbers will likely slip a little as a result.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 14 '08
Ichiro Suzuki Seattle Mariners
Slipped all the way to $30 in CBS Sportsline. Could be because the touts have been dragging him through the mud the last 2-3 years, particularly Baseball Prospectus, whose PECOTA doesn't seem to know what to do about stolen bases. Ichiro did slip badly in the power department Post All-Star, but he did that in 2006, too. Even if you think he's going to falter this year, I'd pencil in a .310 BA and 30 SB and set my bid price accordingly.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 14 '08
Curtis Granderson Miami Marlins
Went for $31 in the Sportsline expert auction. I don't see much more upside in Granderson's Age-27 year in 2008, but I don't see much regression either, except perhaps in the triples department. Mike's bid should come up a little.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 14 '08
Nick Markakis Atlanta Braves
He went for $31 in the Sportsline expert auction. The caveats Rotoman listed below apply, but Markakis is on the right end of the growth curve age-wise.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 14 '08
Bobby Abreu Philadelphia Phillies
Went for $31 in Sportsline. I think that's a tad high, but I agree with Jeff that $27 is probably as low as he'll go in a non-freeze league.

The problem with Abreu in a freeze league is that I can see him sailing up to $35, and the upside at that price is limited.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 14 '08
Roger Clemens Boston Red Sox
Mike and the Maddog had a poll where listeners were calling in yesterday on whether Clemens was guilty or not guilty - the last I heard it was 19 to 1 - guilty vs. non-guilty (and this is a NY radio station). I wonder if the one caller was Toz?
Derek Correale Jobu
Feb 14 '08
"Reading all of these comments, I just find it funny that we believe the drug dealers who are offered immunity and reduced sentences to name names and have admittedly lied in the past and the present. Sounds like more people are on board with this witch hunt than I thought."

With every person that confirms what the drug dealer is saying, I believe that person more and more. So far we have Pettitte, Knobloch and even Mrs. Clemens validating McNamee's allegations.

Plus we have Clemens inventing new words, and meeting with his former nanny for the first time in 7 years (right before she is to grant an interview with the Feds). I wonder how much money was in her belated birthday card?

Honestly, I could give a rat's ass if all the players in MLB were taking the stuff for the time when it wasn't being tested. MLB knew that this was going on, and knew that amphetamine use was even more of a problem, but they didn't want to do anything about it!

If you believe that the testing policy they have in place right now is stopping players from still taking this stuff, you are crazy.

As for bids, I think $1 for Clemens in the end game could produce some profit, if he decides he wants to be in the spotlight 1 more time. His EGO is big enough that he might actually enjoy the chants of "cheater" when he is pitching.
Donny Brubaker donbru
Feb 14 '08
Toz - you've convinced me - CLEMENS IS INNOCENT! He never did HGH or performance enhancing drugs. No doubt in my mind.
Derek Correale Jobu
Feb 14 '08
Randy Johnson San Francisco Giants
I think $9 for 4x4 with a 44 year old pitcher is about as far as we can go here. And I cannot say I will be the one to say $9, $8 or $7.
John Toczydlowski Toz
Feb 14 '08
Cole Hamels Chicago Cubs
Can I join your league so I can trade for Hamels at $15?
John Toczydlowski Toz
Feb 14 '08

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